Discussion in 'Detailing, Valeting and Car care' started by BRUNBERG, Sep 2, 2011.
What's the best stuff to get to clean wheels with?
Are you serious?
How long is a piece of string?
Are the wheels
Bare metal and lacquered?
Are the waxed/sealed?
To clean general dirt and brake dust or to remove tar and contaminants?
Acidic? Alkaline? Ph neutral?
Touchless wash or something to agitate?
Why is this? For example, is it just because there are more people in the world with cars or are people becoming worse at looking after cars?
They are polished and lacquered, only just got the car so not sure what to use. I've seen people say not to use acid on them, just wondering what to I should get?
Still want to know................
Bit of a strange question as my comment was based on opinion rather than fact.
The number of people in the world with cars would have little baring on how many of them choose to rectify imperfections themselves IMO.
I don't think people are becoming worse at cleaning their cars, I think that with busy lifestyles the majority of people pay others to clean their carsor convenience.
That said, I have seen a huge increase in people attempting to machine correct imperfections on their cars armed solely with information from forums but mainly you tube videos.
Enthusiast forums such as this are a great resource for information as you tube can be, however I personally feel a lot more research is required paired with achieving basic technique. Things often appear easier watching somebody else do it.
A rotary machine polisher is not a fire breathing monster but in the wrong hands it is not difficult to inflict "strike through", especially on panel edges. Strike through is an example of the damage my comment you quoted referred to as it can only be rectified by painting the affected area.
Many enthusiasts/hobbyists achieve fantastic results and fair play to them. The trick is to eliminate imperfections whilst removing as little clear coat as possible. The process is often more labour intensive and time consuming than many people realise.
Hope this goes some way to answer your question.
Ah, it was not clear, to me at least, that that was opinion
So basically more people are damaging their car by over polishing, ill advised wet sanding etc, where as the traditional T-Cut and wax once a year was a more risk free approach?
I wouldn't say over polishing, more machine polishing with poor technique
I tend to keep cars for decades, and I notice most people on forums have a car under a year (not this forum, another BMW related forum I did a poll) and seem to get into it and be on about machine polishing, wet sanding and swirls and the few things I think - just opinion - are:
1) These cars are not going to last because there is not going to be any paint left on them for future owners - not likely to be current owners problem
2) I'm not sure if I am missing something but a lot if it seems pointless because people go on about swirls, wash, clay ( not convinced claying isn't putting scratches in even with lube, I can't see how it sucks bits in to not), then polish then glaze, then wax, then do two bucket washing - next thing you know they are getting rid of swirls again so either what they do hasn't got them out or what they do after puts them back in in which case I doesn't make sense to bother as they are just getting through the paint quicker.
See what I mean - you can't apply new swirls under wax by doing anything on top of wax.
That said just got some meguiars compound, already got some black hole and.dodo juice wax and a shed load of microfibres cloths to give it a go but will be by hand not DA. One of my mates uses this stuff, no DA and his cars reflect like a mirror. Maybe they have swirls but an artificial light blazing on the surface and close up photography isn't how I view my car outside so hopefully will look less dull than it does now but will see
Some valid points there.
I agree, to an extent. Many people undertake defect removal without measuring the paint thickness. Therefore having no idea what their removal rates are.
Often, correct product for inspection are not used after polishing. By this I mean to remove polishing lubricants to ensure correction has been achieved and the imperfections are not just filled.
I carried out a heavy correction on my car after purchase, once a year I give it 1 stage with a finishing polish to keep it looking it's best, a finishing polish on a finishing had has very minimal cut and as such removed less than can be measured in most cases.
Poor washing and trying technique will result it swirls, scratches etc. I work on a principle, if I haven't got time to wash my car properly, it stays dirty
Do you offer a detailing service?
I wash my car when I can but I leave detailing to people who know what they are doing I watched Russ do mine and I think it's a skill that you have to have to do the job properly and I don't have that skill
What would be the best product to protect the alloys during winter months ? Also what's the best product to clean the alloys ? I have diamond cut alloys
Great advice, thanks