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The adjacent property (where the photo is seemingly taken from) is no11 ie the chancellor’s gaff
Indeed, that had crossed my mind. I’m sure Johnson will be displeased, and that pleases me!
Each incident brings the end of his tenure one step closer.
 

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Lovely warm feeling of schadenfreude this Xmas
 

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Indeed, that had crossed my mind. I’m sure Johnson will be displeased, and that pleases me!
Each incident brings the end of his tenure one step closer.

He has kryptonite Y-fronts...nothing seems to hurt him for long...
 

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He has kryptonite Y-fronts...nothing seems to hurt him for long...
I can now see Hollywood queuing up to make that film of him in a leotard :muttley:
 

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And in today’s news….which should resonate with many here, given the state of our road network.

The 8th Viscount Gage, a Tory peer, received £300,000 in public money to mend potholes on a driveway in his private estate. There's more, this taxpayers money came from the Levelling Up Fund.

So just to be clear…
It‘s his driveway, on his land.
He’s absolutely minted.
But taxpayers are paying for it to be fixed.

Can’t wait to hear how anyone can defend this.
 

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Easy net buster for the internet court.

Frothing Daily mail readers will lap it up and it's an easy spin as you have found.

The Virile viscount has staff that know how to game the grant system. That's nowt new.

The Charleston Trust said: ‘Our charity is grateful to South East Local Enterprise Partnership and the Government’s Getting Building Fund for providing the funding needed to rebuild the severely damaged access track.

‘The new road provides safer, easier, and greener ways for visitors to reach Charleston and will help support the recovery and growth of the region’s creative and visitor economy.’

The South East Local Enterprise Partnership, through which the grant application was made, said the fund has created 11 new jobs and ‘helped to boost the local creative and cultural sector’.



So for Shi7s and giggles I'll have a tilt at the case for the defence.:think:

It doesn't appear to actually be his drive, it's part of a property that is held in trust that is a registered charity.

The poor people who drive up the newly repaired drive won't risk damage to their aged Dacia Sanderos now as they come and see how the other half live, they won't need a Rangie now so that's good for the environment.

Define minted? by some standards yes, by others no. His personal wealth at an estimated £15mill is peanuts compared to some 170 ish UK billionaires.

The public good is the 11 new jobs.

So what looks like a slam dunk hang him high and flog him to DM readers might just be a mild harruumph, some anti old money indignation and a suspended sentence of mild drive envy.

At least it's not £billions going to be spent on a giant train set.

Some know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Ok it's indefensible but fighting lost causes can lighten the mood in these darkish days.

Happy New Year:):peace:
 

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This government has been pretty horrendous, and BoJo will surely go down as one of the most incompetent PMs of all time, but playing devil’s advocate - any government would have come under fire, made numerous ****-ups and pi55ed off the nation in this situation, they were always going to look bad no matter who they were.

Who knows, this potentially could have all been far worse with a Labour government in power, imagine if Corbyn had won the 2019 General Election with his cabinet of mongoloids, we may well have been in an even worse state.

As a centralist I want a Labour government to come in next and continue with the same level of ineptitude and up-fu<kery so at least everyone on the political spectrum can see this is an un-winnable situation for any government.

Plus Labour governments are always good for a laugh, they make people happy for a good few years because they’re not Tories, but always put the country into crippling dept, and then everyone capitulates and realises socialism needs to take a break for a while because money doesn’t grow on trees, and Tories, although appear vile to many, can at least add up - it’s a brilliant cycle we have here.
 
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This government has been pretty horrendous, and BoJo will surely go down as one of the most incompetent PMs of all time, but playing devil’s advocate - any government would have come under fire, made numerous ****-ups and pi55ed off the nation in this situation, they were always going to look bad no matter who they were.

Who knows, this potentially could have all been far worse with a Labour government in power, imagine if Corbyn had won the 2019 General Election with his cabinet of mongoloids, we may well have been in an even worse state.

As a centralist I want a Labour government to come in next and continue with the same level of ineptitude and up-fu<kery so at least everyone on the political spectrum can see this is an un-winnable situation for any government.

Plus Labour governments are always good for a laugh, they make people happy for a good few years because they’re not Tories, but always put the country into crippling dept, and then everyone capitulates and realises socialism needs to take a break for a while because money doesn’t grow on trees, and Tories, although appear vile to many, can at least add up - it’s a brilliant cycle we have here.
It’s worrying isn’t it… we’re always left with a “lesser of two evils” choice…
:suicide:

Whole system needs reform, but I’m not sure what will truly be balanced in favour of the public…
 

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Easy net buster for the internet court.

Frothing Daily mail readers will lap it up and it's an easy spin as you have found.

The Virile viscount has staff that know how to game the grant system. That's nowt new.

The Charleston Trust said: ‘Our charity is grateful to South East Local Enterprise Partnership and the Government’s Getting Building Fund for providing the funding needed to rebuild the severely damaged access track.

‘The new road provides safer, easier, and greener ways for visitors to reach Charleston and will help support the recovery and growth of the region’s creative and visitor economy.’

The South East Local Enterprise Partnership, through which the grant application was made, said the fund has created 11 new jobs and ‘helped to boost the local creative and cultural sector’.



So for Shi7s and giggles I'll have a tilt at the case for the defence.:think:

It doesn't appear to actually be his drive, it's part of a property that is held in trust that is a registered charity.

The poor people who drive up the newly repaired drive won't risk damage to their aged Dacia Sanderos now as they come and see how the other half live, they won't need a Rangie now so that's good for the environment.

Define minted? by some standards yes, by others no. His personal wealth at an estimated £15mill is peanuts compared to some 170 ish UK billionaires.

The public good is the 11 new jobs.

So what looks like a slam dunk hang him high and flog him to DM readers might just be a mild harruumph, some anti old money indignation and a suspended sentence of mild drive envy.

At least it's not £billions going to be spent on a giant train set.

Some know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Ok it's indefensible but fighting lost causes can lighten the mood in these darkish days.

Happy New Year:):peace:
Interesting points, and I dare say there may be facts and background that are put at a distance where us plebs are concerned. Just look at the model of disconnection and denial exercised by Johnson regarding his flat refurb...where he was found bang to rights.

This business of a property that is not only held in trust but is also a registered charity is interesting. Some may even suggest that's a creative way of avoiding self funding. I'd ask the question though, if someone was that wealthy, regardless of any shared use/charidee status etc, does it never cross the mind of these people that they can actually afford to get their hand in their own pocket, thus freeing funds for true "levelling up" that many more public would benefit from?

As for "minted", the daily flail article you reference seems to cast some doubt on his "miserly" 15 mill wealth, given the number of houses he allegedly owns, along with the proceedings of his painting sale. If true that lot racks up almost 50 mill on the back of a fag packet. So something doesn't seem quite right there! And where lack of clarity is concerned, there's usually a reason. Transparency often seems in short supply these days.

Returning to the "levelling up" aspect, and I will quote from the article you've referenced, how does his driveway repair fit in with "specifically aimed at helping Covid-hit infrastructure"?

Sorry but right now I am starting to interpret "levelling up" and all its sub-genres as potentially another channel for corruption.
I'll happily shelve that view when I see evidence of that scheme happening round here, bringing tangible benefits to ordinary folk going about their ordinary lives.

Come to think of it, why do we even need "levelling up" as a new initiative? Surely there are existing processes to identify areas that need improvement? Don't local authorities play a part in that already? I may be posing a naive question there, but it strikes me that building a new, centralised mechanism, to improve things at a local level merely allows for a convoluted web of deceipt to be designed around it...

Bear in mind I am considering that thought based on the PPE scandal for one. Find the need, ignore existing processes and suppliers, then pay top whack...and more, to connected mates. Feels somewhat similar.

HNY back at ya
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Easy net buster for the internet court.

Frothing Daily mail readers will lap it up and it's an easy spin as you have found.

The Virile viscount has staff that know how to game the grant system. That's nowt new.

The Charleston Trust said: ‘Our charity is grateful to South East Local Enterprise Partnership and the Government’s Getting Building Fund for providing the funding needed to rebuild the severely damaged access track.

‘The new road provides safer, easier, and greener ways for visitors to reach Charleston and will help support the recovery and growth of the region’s creative and visitor economy.’

The South East Local Enterprise Partnership, through which the grant application was made, said the fund has created 11 new jobs and ‘helped to boost the local creative and cultural sector’.



So for Shi7s and giggles I'll have a tilt at the case for the defence.:think:

It doesn't appear to actually be his drive, it's part of a property that is held in trust that is a registered charity.

The poor people who drive up the newly repaired drive won't risk damage to their aged Dacia Sanderos now as they come and see how the other half live, they won't need a Rangie now so that's good for the environment.

Define minted? by some standards yes, by others no. His personal wealth at an estimated £15mill is peanuts compared to some 170 ish UK billionaires.

The public good is the 11 new jobs.

So what looks like a slam dunk hang him high and flog him to DM readers might just be a mild harruumph, some anti old money indignation and a suspended sentence of mild drive envy.

At least it's not £billions going to be spent on a giant train set.

Some know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Ok it's indefensible but fighting lost causes can lighten the mood in these darkish days.

Happy New Year:):peace:

Far too balanced and reasonable for the cutters kangaroo court.
 

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Interesting points, and I dare say there may be facts and background that are put at a distance where us plebs are concerned. Just look at the model of disconnection and denial exercised by Johnson regarding his flat refurb...where he was found bang to rights.

This business of a property that is not only held in trust but is also a registered charity is interesting. Some may even suggest that's a creative way of avoiding self funding. I'd ask the question though, if someone was that wealthy, regardless of any shared use/charidee status etc, does it never cross the mind of these people that they can actually afford to get their hand in their own pocket, thus freeing funds for true "levelling up" that many more public would benefit from?

As for "minted", the daily flail article you reference seems to cast some doubt on his "miserly" 15 mill wealth, given the number of houses he allegedly owns, along with the proceedings of his painting sale. If true that lot racks up almost 50 mill on the back of a fag packet. So something doesn't seem quite right there! And where lack of clarity is concerned, there's usually a reason. Transparency often seems in short supply these days.

Returning to the "levelling up" aspect, and I will quote from the article you've referenced, how does his driveway repair fit in with "specifically aimed at helping Covid-hit infrastructure"?

Sorry but right now I am starting to interpret "levelling up" and all its sub-genres as potentially another channel for corruption.
I'll happily shelve that view when I see evidence of that scheme happening round here, bringing tangible benefits to ordinary folk going about their ordinary lives.

Come to think of it, why do we even need "levelling up" as a new initiative? Surely there are existing processes to identify areas that need improvement? Don't local authorities play a part in that already? I may be posing a naive question there, but it strikes me that building a new, centralised mechanism, to improve things at a local level merely allows for a convoluted web of deceipt to be designed around it...

Bear in mind I am considering that thought based on the PPE scandal for one. Find the need, ignore existing processes and suppliers, then pay top whack...and more, to connected mates. Feels somewhat similar.

HNY back at ya
:beer:
Levelling up is just a slogan that means F all, and will change F all. Same as any other government slogan

Perhaps that’s just the cynic in me, but a vague, intangible promise of hope usually results in not much.
:lolwsign:
 

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Levelling up is just a slogan that means F all, and will change F all. Same as any other government slogan

Perhaps that’s just the cynic in me, but a vague, intangible promise of hope usually results in not much.
:lolwsign:

Yep, the only bit of “levelling” up that’s appropriate and true is the probability that the idiot at the helm is treating the lives of others as a game. I’ll freely admit that my contempt and hatred for these people grows with each passing day, as it’s pretty much guaranteed each day will bring a new clusterfck upon us.

The one I’m watching right now is how things develop after that reporter asked him where’s he’s been lately. There was nothing in the question to prompt the rather blustered response of “in this country…” and many are suggesting that’s because he knew he had something to hide. Apols for Twitter link, it’s all I could find right now

 

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I do wonder if the lack of credible opposition is that no one is all that keen to preside over the current $hit show. Once the outlook is a bit less uncertain I suspect old Bojo will be out on his **** (and replaced by someone just as unscrupulous but with a better veneer no doubt).
 

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All kicking off again with the email coming to light showing 100 people being invited to a garden party with bring your own booze, I think this was when we were being told to limit outdoor numbers to 2 , really couldn’t make it up but no doubt it will all be let go :bh:
 

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All kicking off again with the email coming to light showing 100 people being invited to a garden party with bring your own booze, I think this was when we were being told to limit outdoor numbers to 2 , really couldn’t make it up but no doubt it will all be let go :bh:

This has gone way beyond a joke. So where does this go next? Someone else ready to go under a bus to cover his @rse?
The old saying about no smoke without fire could have been used so often, and increasingly so, during his leadership. That in itself must say something to even the most staunch supporter. Hell, even opinion polls in deepest blue territory are wobbling.

The lack of interest by the Met, in not investigating what are laughingly, crimes committed on their patch...no, under their very nose, is disgusting. Oh you don't look into retrospective crimes?
How inconsiderate of these @rseholes not to break laws THEY implemented, in the future, rather than the past.

So this event had 100 people invited. It's a safe bet that list of names will be on briefings shared with "security" at #10, oh, that would be the police, again, and also likely those names ended up on a tick list of attendees confirmed as signed in. This is basic security stuff, and nobody can tell me these details were not documented. Everybody bring booze it says! Not sure how that figures with the previous lame excuse that everyone was discussing work. Even if true, are we really saying it's acceptable to get pissed, breaching rules about get togethers, whilst "discussing" matters relating to the greatest health crisis of our time?

The only sane conclusion is that they are out of control, they feel no law applies to them, they view us with contempt, and damningly, the police are in on it. Don't forget all the reported cases of domestic get togethers and parties being crushed with an iron fist, and maximum fines handed out. All at the same time this sh1t was going on. One set of rules, but different outcomes depending not on politics, but class. Hate to break this to anyone that thinks they are tory, but unless you have the background or connections, you ain't. You're just a number at a voting station, to enable THEM and their corrupt lifestyles.

I've been voting for over 40 years, and have never seen such a vile shower of incompetent, two faced sh1ts, lacking the moral compass to hold their hands up when cornered.
The pathetic excuses, the denials, the shifting alibis, the knowing smirks. Come on, smell the fking coffee people.

He needs to go, or this country's population will lose patience.
If the enquiry led by Gray does not expose their breaches of the law, I really wonder if it will be the last straw, and people will take to the streets.
Me? I'll happily watch Westminster burn, especially if those c unts are inside.
 

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This has gone way beyond a joke. So where does this go next? Someone else ready to go under a bus to cover his @rse?
The old saying about no smoke without fire could have been used so often, and increasingly so, during his leadership. That in itself must say something to even the most staunch supporter. Hell, even opinion polls in deepest blue territory are wobbling.

The lack of interest by the Met, in not investigating what are laughingly, crimes committed on their patch...no, under their very nose, is disgusting. Oh you don't look into retrospective crimes?
How inconsiderate of these @rseholes not to break laws THEY implemented, in the future, rather than the past.

So this event had 100 people invited. It's a safe bet that list of names will be on briefings shared with "security" at #10, oh, that would be the police, again, and also likely those names ended up on a tick list of attendees confirmed as signed in. This is basic security stuff, and nobody can tell me these details were not documented. Everybody bring booze it says! Not sure how that figures with the previous lame excuse that everyone was discussing work. Even if true, are we really saying it's acceptable to get pissed, breaching rules about get togethers, whilst "discussing" matters relating to the greatest health crisis of our time?

The only sane conclusion is that they are out of control, they feel no law applies to them, they view us with contempt, and damningly, the police are in on it. Don't forget all the reported cases of domestic get togethers and parties being crushed with an iron fist, and maximum fines handed out. All at the same time this sh1t was going on. One set of rules, but different outcomes depending not on politics, but class. Hate to break this to anyone that thinks they are tory, but unless you have the background or connections, you ain't. You're just a number at a voting station, to enable THEM and their corrupt lifestyles.

I've been voting for over 40 years, and have never seen such a vile shower of incompetent, two faced sh1ts, lacking the moral compass to hold their hands up when cornered.
The pathetic excuses, the denials, the shifting alibis, the knowing smirks. Come on, smell the fking coffee people.

He needs to go, or this country's population will lose patience.
If the enquiry led by Gray does not expose their breaches of the law, I really wonder if it will be the last straw, and people will take to the streets.
Me? I'll happily watch Westminster burn, especially if those c unts are inside.
Can’t argue with any of this , GMB going all out on this , surely no wriggle room left
 

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Having seen and listened to the MP (Minister ?) on the morning programme being interviewed, I'm just a little pissed off the direct question was never asked, namely "In the light of these and previous revelations, how can you defend BJ actions ?"
It's all very well replying wait for Ms Gray's investigation report etc etc", but each time another allegation is revealed it will add time to her report or is this just a delaying tactic in the hope that by the time the report is actually published, the hope is the population will have forgotten all the furore ?
 

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I suppose one of the issues we have is the way our government works i.e we elect people to represent us and they make up the house but if those people’s allegiances lie with their cronies rather than the country/people they were voted in by then nothing will get done.

Open flagrant cronyism and corruption. What has this country become.
 

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