So ww3 is here ?

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  1. 16 Apr 2018 at 8:39 AM #101
    Biggles

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    The conspiracy theorists love a far fetched story, but only if it aportions blame to the west, and not those poor old innocent mass murdering dictators the poor things.
     
  2. 16 Apr 2018 at 9:32 AM #102
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    Like you I try and get all the information then make an informed decision .
    Couple of points on your post .
    I notice you only pick out the Russian saying about the fake attack .
    I totally get that ,pre emotive narrative before the event ,
    Is it coincidence the saudi visited all 3 involved ?
    Personally I find it strange
    And second ,
    Did you read the wording of the western backed UN resolution .
    It was to first blame Assad without investigation ,which in turn would give the mandate for military action .
    The Russians put forward a counter resolution to get the inspectors in ASAP then to come back .
    The western media I saw certainly never mentioned the counter resolution ,unless I missed it .
    The inspectors are there now ,the day after military action ,so someone allowed them in ,
    Appreciate your reply Biggles
     
  3. 16 Apr 2018 at 11:08 AM #103
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    I think all sides (in here) have raised valid points.

    Personally, I think Syria is the battleground of Russia vs. USA.

    Russia needs that area for economic security & defence objectives.
    The USA want to dominate the Middle East (again for economic and strategic purposes).

    The fallout is that those caught in the middle (Syrian civilians) suffer the most.

    The wider impact is the UK / France and the rest of the world are being dragged in to military action by 'good relationships' with the USA as what's good for the USA is also good for it's partners / allies.

    On top of that you've got a propaganda war and spread of dis-information so the likes of the general public find it increasingly difficult to know what the real truth is. I don't doubt that both the Russians an the American's have their own agendas for Syria.

    Russia - We're helping get rid of terrorists!
    USA - We're protecting the lives of Syrians!

    After Ukraine / Crimea (even before that actually) the Russians have demonstrated what they'll do to protect themselves & their prosperity. The same can be said for the USA's foreign policy in the Middle East (Iraq / Afghan).

    Neither have a good track record and neither can be trusted to deliver the 'truth'. As an ally to the USA / EU we will almost always follow the USA's lead.
     
  4. 16 Apr 2018 at 11:55 AM #104
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    Ive received complaints about this thread and having read some of the posts by various members, i'm inclined to close it.

    Please keep you language civil, bare in mind others may not have your views, this is why we at the forum try to steer clear of political views.

    I'll keep it open for the time being but I'm keeping my eyes on this, please refrain from bad language and name calling.
     
  5. 16 Apr 2018 at 4:58 PM #105
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    I did read the info on the veto, along with the several other votes on moves to investigate they have blocked. Personally I think there’s a whole lot of semantics and word play at work with them, at face value they may have had a point, but taken in context with every other bit of obfuscation on their behalf I just don’t trust their motives.

    I’ve also just read that the OPCW are on the ground and ready to go, but funny old thing the Russians have blocked/delayed-call it what you will, their access to the scene. If I was them and as innocent as they claim, I’d be falling over myself to get them in ASAP to substantiate my claims.

    I don’t really have many thoughts on your Saudi link, other than if they were indeed conspiring, would they need high profile face to face meetings to conjure up their plans in this day and age?
     
  6. 16 Apr 2018 at 5:49 PM #106
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    I don't agree with your views, but I agree that everyone is entitled their own views. No one should be name calling or bashing anyone.

    Keyboard warriors springs to mind.
     
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  7. 16 Apr 2018 at 8:34 PM #107
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    As a race we've progressed to the peak and I feel we're heading back down by destroying each other (cutters threads seem to be a brilliant example:D) and the planet as a result, just to show off personal power & ego!

    Really makes me wonder whether I should even be having kids.....
     
  8. 16 Apr 2018 at 9:12 PM #108
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    OK thats it. Ive deleted both your posts in this thread.

    Toplad and ADL, you are both on a warning.

    If you continue to behave in the manner, there will be serious consequences.

    If you wish to continue in this please take it off line, i will be monitoring your posts, be warned....

    I'm now closing this thread as you two dont seem to be able to act as adults.
     
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