Selling a car - how to spot dodgy buyers

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  1. 29 Jun 2020 at 11:39 AM #1
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    Guys, I’m having a clear out of my old sports cars and a few work horses.

    Sold a few with no hassle easy smooth transactions

    now with a bmw e87 118d, I’m getting a lot of interests but they are asking to plug in diagnostics supposedly to check for major faults. While I have no problem with this as I know there are no faults as the car has been maintained 100% by my self.

    ive heard stories like people putting oil in coolant and programming in
    A new key while doing diagnostics then coming back later the cars gone.

    Should I allow them to plug it while I watch them and see what they do or should I decline, what are the best ways to avoid falling victim
     
  2. 29 Jun 2020 at 11:43 AM #2
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    Guy plugged my M4 in. Nothing to hide so no problem.

    Everyone thinks plugging a car in now tells them everything. Don’t sweat it.
     
  3. 29 Jun 2020 at 6:30 PM #3
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    I’d say that they can do it as long as you can have full visibility of the screen whilst it’s plugged in. This way you can see them navigate through the menus to ensure they only scan modules and not write to them.
     
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    The idea of you the seller being able to watch the screen is ok, except that I have read stories where this is a distraction tecnhique while their mate who's come with them is up to some other shennanigans.
     
  5. 29 Jun 2020 at 8:27 PM #5
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    I wouldn’t want anyone plugging random rubbish OBD readers into my car personally.
    Would say if they want to do that then we could both go to a local garage and they could check for faults at buyers expense
     
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    This.
    Definitely.
     
  7. 29 Jun 2020 at 9:57 PM #7
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    Absolutely, you’d need a second person present to keep an eye on the engine bay.
     
  8. 29 Jun 2020 at 10:00 PM #8
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    Why does the bonnet need to be open to plug the car in? OBD is in the footwell.
     
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    I was replying to Jac’s post above, she was referring to shenanigans going on from the buyers mate. A second person could fiddle with sensors/etc under the bonnet whilst you are watching the screen. A second person would need to keep an eye out under the bonnet if the seller is watching a code reader.
     
  10. 29 Jun 2020 at 10:09 PM #10
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    Yes my point is don’t open the bonnet at same time.
     
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    I’ve never sold a car and somebody had asked to plug in a OBD reader. If it was my car, I wouldn’t let them. Any faults are visible on any modern cars on board computer.
     
  12. 29 Jun 2020 at 10:31 PM #12
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    Have a rest with your casually offensive stupid statements. You’re not being funny or clever. I’m sure there’s ‘Eastern European’ people on here that may find you offensive. I’m not and I do.
     
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  13. 29 Jun 2020 at 10:34 PM #13
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    Not necessarily, valvetronic motor failure on the M135i doesnt give an EML, but it does give a shadow fault code.

    I always plug in carly to read the codes, if the seller wont let me, i simply dont buy the car.
     
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    Fair enough but personally I’d be inclined to go with the suggestions above about letting the potential buyer get it checked at a garage rather than them plugging bits in on my driveway if they were concerned about faults.
     
  16. 29 Jun 2020 at 10:48 PM #16
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    I’d judge the situation by the individual - trust your gut instinct.

    I wouldn’t let them plug anything in, until they were happy with the car and price - plugging in OBD tool should be the very last step.
     
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    Nah, Romany’s don’t bother with OBD. :D
    Seriously though Stuart you get dodgy people from all backgrounds.
     
  18. 29 Jun 2020 at 11:11 PM #18
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    Well the easiest solution is that only one person can take ownership of a car so only one person needs to be viewing it.

    If more than two turned up just don’t show them the car.
     
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    It really p*sses me off when people are offended on behalf of other people, Grow up
     
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