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  1. 6 May 2021 at 11:29 AM #1
    faisal1203

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    Just a rant, Road tax up yet again!

    I remember when I first had an E92 M3 in 2017, Road Tax was around £515 for the year.

    Purchased another E92 last year and it was £580. Just had my reminder come through, now £600 for the year. Absolutely ridiculous. Happy to put the road tax up but they won’t ever fix the potholes!

    It seems to me they will make it harder and harder to own petrol/diesel cars (especially the ‘performance’ cars) and everyone will have to eventually give in to agenda of the good old electric vehicle.

    Rant over
     
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  2. 6 May 2021 at 11:37 AM #2
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    Just bought a C63 and in the same boat, also left me thinking just how much we pay for fuel in comparison to the rest of the world, with the mental amount of duty on it here. Motorists have always been a cash cow in the UK with speeding fines, fuel duty, the whole approach to tax where you usually overpay in the first and last month etc, and its only going to get worse in the name of eco friendliness - all whilst industrial pollution continues at massive scale!
     
  3. 6 May 2021 at 11:46 AM #3
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    I think the biggest issue is, for me at least I’m paying £600 a year road tax, and the car will barely do 1k miles per year. This is why imo it should be added onto fuel.
    The more you drive, the more you pay... simple.

    How is my 4.0 V8 harming the environment parked up in the garage on charge.
     
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  4. 6 May 2021 at 12:00 PM #4
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    Disgraceful Colin........


    Only doing 1k miles year.:D
     
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    ^^^ 100%

    It's little more than politics being manipulated to screw over an increasingly persecuted group - i.e. us, as an easy target.

    Make out that petrolheads are the devil incarnate, helps justify fcking us over, to the bland masses.
    When one income route is exhausted move onto the next, after creating a hostile perception of said group, then bend them over too (cough diesel cough)

    I've recently noted some coverage in the news about the broader picture of EVs, particularly where EOL recycling is concerned, but very much doubt the true end to end costs are well understood, let alone the inevitable spawning of dodgy recycling facilities in far away countries that are not well monitored.

    Usage vs fuel based taxation is a no brainer for me, and would also help address the issue of vehicle tax dodgers. Whether recouping those losses, which I'd imagine are significant, would offset against "lost income" from low milers is a point I'd like to see more data on.
     
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  6. 6 May 2021 at 12:30 PM #6
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    Probably also the result of Brexit........in your head.:D
     
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    Yep went through exactly the same thought process last month when taxing mine. Don’t do many miles and the tax, warranty, insurance are all starting to sting a bit, especially the tax as roads in this country (south!) are utter sh1te and always busy.

    but every now and then I take it out for a blast and the feeling is priceless.

    I’m going to hold out for as long as I can and as long as I can afford it, as one day we’ll be forced to drive EVs anyway.....
     
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  8. 6 May 2021 at 12:38 PM #8
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    Somewhat confused...where did I mention, or even imply Brexit?
     
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    :muttley:

    It's the EU that are at fault here with the fishing rights.
     
  10. 6 May 2021 at 1:04 PM #10
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    Oh riiight...

    I had not realised that a point made in another thread where Brexit is totally relevant is subsequently candidate for being melded into a different discussion.

    But I guess that’s ok, in your head...

    Returning to the point at hand, resorting to gunboat diplomacy is a sad state of affairs, but says an awful lot about Johnson’s true diplomatic capabilities, as evidenced time and again in every role he has held.

    Don’t forget that whatever negative outcomes await the rest of us, unless we end up as part of the bodies piled high first, he will always do well out of it. He is very good at playing games, with the lives and livelihoods of others.
     
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  11. 6 May 2021 at 1:05 PM #11
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    Where do you think the electricity comes from to charge your car?

    Have you no shame?
     
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    There's no shame if it's an S65-powered generator ;)
     
  13. 6 May 2021 at 1:12 PM #13
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    We don't have to be diplomatic with the French when THEY ARE in the wrong. I'd sooner have someone in charge who stands up and defends our country than the disgrace of a man that was Corbyn or his replacement. How can the Labour Party have a Knight of the Realm as its leader. Beggars belief. Yes Boris does make some howlers but he is scrutinised like a hawk and every thing he has ever said, even in jest, gets twisted and taken out of context. I suspect none of us would stand up to his level of scrutiny. Just look at your WhatsApp feed.
     
  14. 6 May 2021 at 1:14 PM #14
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    Do you think sending in gunboats will bring down road tax?
     
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    Stop mixing threads.:D
     
  16. 6 May 2021 at 1:20 PM #16
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    Sorry :(
     
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    Nope! With the cold weather we are getting at the moment in MAY.. we could all use a little climate warming :muttley:
     
  18. 6 May 2021 at 3:21 PM #18
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    And how do the electric cars pay for road wear?
     
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    Mine was £475 on the reminder but when I went to pay it online, it was £490! Agree with C1DG, it should be on fuel!
     
  20. 6 May 2021 at 3:29 PM #20
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    So you think it’s more appropriate to dismiss discussion in favour of deploying an armed response?

    That, is a failure of politics and diplomacy.

    Surely if they are in the wrong, all that is needed is to break out the appropriate Brexit documentation, point to it, and go “see, look, that bit”. But no, we have to embark on a who has the biggest balls competition, coincidentally during elections.

    That said it’s completely in character of someone who just needed an excuse to play with his toys, and the lives of others, rather than doing his job via diplomacy, which, lets be honest has never been a strong point.

    Indeed, “Boris” or Johnson, as I prefer to call him...as I will not fall for the image he is trying to paint, has made “some howlers”, through his entire career, in every single role actually.

    At this stage, regardless of where fault lies, to go in heavy is just bloody stupid, and unnecessarily ups the ante.
    Perhaps he is goading “Johnny foreigner” into blockading the channel tunnel, or shipping ports, then he can say “told you so”, yep best get the aircraft carrier over there just in case.

    As for defending Johnson via the somewhat tiresome “but Corbyn...” argument, it has no merit whatsoever. His name came up via your reply, not before, and you’re referencing something that has not happened, making it a purely hypothetical point.

    Equally I could make a similar hypothetical point by claiming Corbyn would have done a brilliant job of it. But he is not in power, so neither viewpoint has any merit whatsoever. We are talking about the person in charge right fcking now, nothing else.

    His level of scrutiny is what should be happening, in the position he holds.
    If you don’t want the actions of a national leader scrutinised then it rather questions the point of democracy at all.

    Apologies to OP for the rather silly and unwarranted thread hijack.
     
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