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  1. 27 Apr 2013 at 7:31 PM #1
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    Hi all
    What does everyone think about prices of e36 m3s at present being realistic

    What about a 50k evo compared to a 100k evo

    Price guides at moment any thoughts
     
  2. 27 Apr 2013 at 7:33 PM #2
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    hard to put a price on a car without seeing it, and judging it for its own condition/spec/paperwork etc.

    market usually helps (seeing what other similar examples are advertised at, or been sold around)

    if you have any cars in mind, post the links to them! its good to see peoples comments on them :thumbsup:
     
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    On the recent E36 mileage post the median miles for E36's was about 78k and so this is a comparison between an above average miles example and a very low one. As I have one of the latter I did notice there are literally only a handful of those.

    Assuming we are talking about a good example (and we can all debate what that might mean) my view is the 100k car would be worth £4-4.5k. A 50k motor might be £5.25- 5.5k with a small premium for exceptional examples of both.

    There are still too many E36 evo's around for them to go up in value in my opinion so drive them to enjoy I say.
     
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    There are quite a few over priced then at moment I can understand everyone wants the best price they can but I suppose have to be realistic
     
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    My opinion was what they are actually worth..

    ..some of them will hang on and they may get their price if the car is special enough and advertised prices will be slightly higher to allow haggling.

    Dealers will demand a premium on private deals so this will push the headline number up a bit too.
     
  6. 29 Apr 2013 at 6:34 PM #6
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    I haven't seen any less than 50k for anywhere near 5.5k not yet anyway
     
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    I think values on these are starting to be based more on the cars condition/ history, rather than mileage. I reckon that a car with sub 50k would be worth a few quid more than a car of equal condition and history but average miles, but with most cars being between 80 and 150 k, I don't think mileage is the main point to be used for valuation.

    Regarding valuation in general, I would say that 5 grand should be about right for a clean, well serviced, rust free, mechanically solid car with no major issues, dropping towards the 3 grand mark depending on deficiencies with regard to the above.

    Common things I would look to get money off for would be-

    Rusty arches (they're not cheap to get sorted properly)
    Clutch bite point/ gears not selecting/ popping out (as much as a braided hose can help, if the friction plates worn out, its worn out, and gearboxes are a bit of a mare o sort by all accounts)
    Clunks and clonks from the suspension/ drivetrain.
    Service history.
    Worn interior.

    I took all these into account when buying mine, it was easily the cleanest, most mechanically sound one I looked at (of the 4 I saw), and Ill still end up probably spending a fair chunk on it to keep it sweet. Inspection 1 coming up after 7 months ownership.... might as well look into ARP. rod bolts and or re-bushing the rear end while its in eh???:muttley:
     
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    I also see mileage as irrelevant now with these cars and there age. My GT had 120k miles on before i started the restoration.

    When its finished (with what ive planned) it will be cleaner and fresher than any M3 available to the market.

    So will mine be in the 4-4.5k bracket? I like to think itl be between 7-8k considering it saying "GT" on the logbook and it actually being a genuine GT with paperwork.
     
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    Absolutely agree. Theres an estoril blue on PH thats been up on PH for months at 8.5k, with below average miles. Being a common combo, and not a limited edition, I dont see why anyone would pay above 6 grand for it.....
     
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    What about the e36 m3 in hell rot red the schnitzer anyone see that any ideas price
     
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    I agree it has been up for a while
     
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    Which one, where?
     
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    Was on eBay has gone know but don't think it sold it was the hell rot red with schnitzers 46k mileage wanted 8500
     
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    If it was a genuine car with paperwork, then it would be worth a premium I reckon, but if its just an M3 with some Schnitzer bits added, then no difference in value IMO....
     
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    I wish I could of shown u it ended on eBay yesterday has been up a few times
     
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    What about the dakar on p heads know 10k Overpriced or not seem to be going up at moment
     
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    I wouldnt say values were going up, more that there are a few sellers about that feel that they can ask more for their cars. That 10k dakar at 4 star classics, if someone buys it and drives it for a couple of years, itll be a 5k, 80000 mile car, just like most of the decent condition cars....

    As an aside, the guy I bought mine was an ex BMW salesman, and he told me that over the years a fair few M3's have been bought up by people as investments, perhaps they are starting to feel confident enough in the market to look at selling...... That could explain why there are a few more expensive examples knocking about now....
     
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    True could the e36 m3 reached the start of its price increase
     
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    I think its more a case of they've bottomed out to the point where rough ones are worth more in parts than letting them go for sub 3k...
     
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