Non-comp M3 worth it vs Comp?

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  1. 12 Jan 2019 at 10:34 PM #1
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    I have read many reviews about how the Comp pack M3 is the the car it should have always been, how it sounds better, handles better etc etc.

    In reality, how difficult is it to make a non-comp pack car perform more like it "should" or a comp pack car (aside from the obvious wheel change).

    Will a) Bootmod b) KW coilover kit c) aftermarket exhaust/modding exhaust d) BMW software upgrade get me close to the mark?

    The difference in pricing is something like £8k between an early M3 and a comp pack, and the mods above (which are largely reversible/salable would be £4k?)
     
  2. 12 Jan 2019 at 10:37 PM #2
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    Roll bars, software for engine, software for suspension and different Springs and exhaust

    Comp packs do also make more power and torque ltd in first 2 gears for which the new software update sorts out

    Can all be done simply but I’d not bother with roll bars if I did it again
     
  3. 12 Jan 2019 at 11:05 PM #3
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    The cp is a big improvement over std (I've had both) I can't be bothered to modify and risk warranty issues (I've had expensive claims on my last M4) to make it "what it should of been" pay the slight premium and get the improved car plus seats and wheels etc
     
  4. 12 Jan 2019 at 11:19 PM #4
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    It’s def an improvement just depends on your budget, when I recently drove the non comp pack and the comp pack the comp pack felt slower because of the newer software etc - resale of hang out for a comp pack
     
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    I have ACS RS coilers (But would go KW if doing again) Centre Gravity set up, Remap, Akra EVO, GTS software and a few other bits I prefer on my 2015 M3, and I'd wager a CP is not better. Having never driven one, or even wanting to, I can't say for sure. But all I know is that the standard M3 was pretty crap, and I love mine. I have never felt the need to go for a CP, but clearly others are happy to go for the latest variants, and that's great if that's your thing. :)
     
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    Even the latest and greatest version ie the mighty CS is not be a match and simply could not keep up with my tweaked and original version car on its KW’s along with the manhart tune box. Be aware Jay has owned both but is also comparing zero spec no even painted car with his better spec’d colour of kings car. Bizarre and silly as it sounds just having full leather makes these car feel very different when you sit behind the wheel.
     
  7. 14 Jan 2019 at 9:45 AM #7
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    I'm just stating that there is a big improvement between std and cp I certainly felt it. That was the question the OP asked. Is it worth it and the answer is yes and you get the ultra light weight seats and those lovely wheels.
     
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    I think the reason the CP sells for a premium over the standard car is that it is far better, if you feel that you can do a better job rebuilding a standard car than BMW M division can then go for it.:dance:
     
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    All that money and years of experience in R&D but the man in his garage can do a better job then M division need to step up
     
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    Really.......Bit like the chat on Nicks thread, the CP being discussed as smoke and mirrors. Black badges do not cover up the mistake that BMW made by fitting those awful heavy wheels, stupid seats and finally giving it a slower map, all because some people got scared in the original car.
    There has been absolutely no r&d from me in my garage, and remember also that the BMW accountants naturally have to play a very large part in their factory r&d decision making. Then even the mighty BMW M division themselves gave up and fitted KW’s to the cooking version (GTS) of the range. Manhart I think apparently also know a thing or two.
    I’ve driven most of the variants (not a GTS or DTM) and I promise you mine over a typical UK bumpy road at speed would leave all of them for dead. The CS I have to say is bloody good out of the box on the road, lacks a few options that I’d like, but is the only one I’d buy if I did it all again and hadn’t already fixed the suspension slightly disappointing issue that mine and the CP both have when pushed.
    So for little money, fitting coilovers to the standard car, can make it a sensible purchase for the OP compared to buying CP. A tune is not necessary, but is however great fun and will make it much quicker in comparison too.
     
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    Rights and wrongs in here depending which side of the fence you're on.

    If you like to keep a car oem then the chances are the factory fettled one e.g. Comp pack is the one to have.

    The thing to bear in mind though is that manufacturers aren't going make a car that's on sale to Joe Public anywhere close to its limits of either power or handling.

    Cars are produced for the general public with some "special" models to appeal to the sportier drivers. That said, manufacturers are hamstrung by a myriad of regulations that the owner who who makes his own changes doesn't have to adhere to. Manufacturers adhere to things such as warranty issues etc so they keep the cars quite soft so they don't create issues for themselves. Very few cars are ever made that are hare brained when they leave the factory.

    Personal modifications to a car can make it unrecognisable from an oem version. They can also make it worse if the wrong choices are made.

    There will always be disagreements between the oem camp and the modifying camp.

    I personally feel that chasing bhp numbers without uprating things such as brakes and suspension first is asking for trouble.....flame suit on :D
     
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    There you go OP, two balanced and eloquent replies, when you fook the seats up cutting holes in them you know who to blame.:D
     
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    Removing seat function obviously saves the bean counters, what it’s all really about for BMW.............money
     
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    Is it worth it. No.

    Will you have to have it because everyone thinks its worth it and resale will be rubbish without. Yes.

    Given the choice would I bother. No.

    Think its overhyped BMW marketing to mug us all off for more money. Bit like the CS.
     
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    When I took you out in mine the seat was soaked through you loved it that much plus the fact your M4 was a boggo std one :p
     
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    Mine was before comp pack was about. Yeah yours is a pukka car mate I love it!

    I would buy one but only because of resale against a standard one.
     
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    Only messing with ya bud :thumbsup:
     
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    Ive had my 2018 CP for 6 months and had my non-Comp 65 plate for 2.5 years. Both from new. The CP overall is the better car day to day mostly because of a better exhaust note. It does handle and drive better too but agree that with a few mods a non-CP is just as capable.

    If I was ever to buy used I'd be looking at the overall condition and spec of the car not whether it's a CP or not.
     
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    Jay my non comp pack one was a lot better than yours lol
     

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