Newbie E92 Help

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  1. 13 May 2020 at 2:00 PM #1
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    Hi guys,

    I am new here and have been lurking the forums recently looking to get as much info as I can about my first M car.

    I am looking for 09/10 plate cars (DCT only) with around 60-80k on the clock. Is there any difference between pre and post lci cars other than the rear lights and updated I drive?

    I will be looking to replace the bearings after purchase. Am I right in saying actuators can be replaced when they fail?

    Is there anything else I should be looking out for at this sort of mileage? Or any other items or components that would require replacing?

    Also, I'm not familiar with the options/spec on these so are there any must haves? I have read conflicting views on whether to go for EDC or not. The car will only be used for weekend/Road use and no track so would I be limiting my options by only looking for EDC equipped cars?

    And I have seen so many different type of audio packages on cars for sale. I am currently looking at one which has individual audio. Is this any good?

    If anyone could decode a vin/hpi a reg for me I will be grateful

    Many thanks

    Soon to be (hopefully) e92 owner
     
  2. 13 May 2020 at 2:56 PM #2
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    You've hit the two main issues. Bearings are a good idea for piece of mind motoring around 1500 is what you're looking at. If you are changing the bearings then the amount of previous owners becomes less important. As for actuators you can have them done be rebuild.org who then provides a lifetime guarantee (some adverts link this so a bonus if you can find one)

    Individual audio is the top stereo level, excellent in my opinion and a high value option.
    EDC I don't have so cannot comment other than to say that my car set up feels ideal for all real world driving conditions, so personally I think if you're not going on track I wouldn't be too worried about having it.

    That aside, dynamic headlights, high beam assist (that can be retrofitted for 250) is all I'd be looking at. N.B heated seats is an option and a must have for me.

    The main difference of LCI is the I drive. Apart from the lights some of the internal switches are also silver!!

    If you have the last 7 numbers of the VIN just go to vindecoder
     
  3. 13 May 2020 at 3:05 PM #3
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    P.S one final point for me is the tyres on the car. Cheap tyres, to me speak to maintenance, something that is very important with a E90/E92
     
  4. 13 May 2020 at 3:54 PM #4
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    I'd try to get as many options as possible. It just makes it easier to sell later on... The options for me, in the following priority order:
    HK or Individual stereo ideally with DAB and Combox to stream Spotify
    EDC (rarely used but it will just be easier to sell later on and they seem reliable enough)
    Electric mirrors (not that easy to retrofit)
    Front parking sensors

    I'm not too fussed with some of the other options like:
    Electric sunblind
    Garage transponder thing
    CD Changer
    Split armrest
     
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    All personal with the desired spec, I nearly got the exact car I wanted but settled with it mainly from a maintenance perspective and the overall condition.
    Try get hold of the last 7 digits of the vin number and you can view the whole spec :) cam get a print off from the dealer too.
    Plenty of stories on rod bearings and a few respected specialists offer the service for around £1400... I'm about to be going down this road myself soon.
    Throttle actuators are a common failure, but not the end of the world when they do go, the car can still be driven. Lifetime warranty on replacement actuators from a chap called Jason at www.rebuild.org.uk

    Enjoy the hunt, some great bargains to be had at the moment... a lot of car for the money!
     
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    Any "option" is a personal choice, get the things that you want as a priority and test drive different cars, i.e. without EDC, with EDC and with the competition package. Individual Audio was the top of the range version and is much better than logic 7 / HK and of course the other 2 lower spec versions. The only piece that lets it down are the under the seat speakers plus it really needs a proper subwoofer.

    No more key LCI changes from what you've written. As mentioned above there are some minor cosmetic changes and certain minor things that were standard before, became options or were simply taken away.

    Cars of this mileage should come with a stack of receipts (invoices not estimates) and a fully stamped service book so you can check whether it was serviced to BMW factory specifications or not.

    Cheap or mismatched tyres are likely to indicate an owner that skips on the proper maintenance. As may an expired tyre repair kit in the boot.

    Get the car on a ramp, inspected properly by a professional, read the ECU for errors, etc. Depending on how the car has been used and stored, bushes may be knackered or perished, there could be rust underneath, etc.

    Test every button / function in the car to make sure it works - make a list beforehand of things to check - be methodical.

    If the car has had all the key updates, the DCT should be super smooth and lighting fast. Latest software updates can be performed by any specialist BMW independent with access to Autologic or equivalent.

    Also at that mileage, once bought, get the DCT oil & filter changed too along with coolant and PAS fluid, unless it was done previously.
     
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    Thanks for the help guys... some good points :)

    electric mirrors are not standard? Wow !!

    The prices on these are all over the place too, with early/leggy ones starting at 11-13k - examples that seem to be well maintained starting at 15k but then competition packs/low mileage ones seem to be listed at around 20k

    Did BMW revise the rod bearings for the late cars? Or are 2012-2013 cars also prone to rod bearing failure?
     
  8. 13 May 2020 at 5:18 PM #8
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    Also, I have been quoted £950 inc VAT for ACL bearings, replacement bolts using genuine BMW bolts, replacement oil sump pan gasket and a oil and filter change using Castrol Edge 10w60 engine oil. This is from Darren Wood in Stockport. I have never used them but they seem to be well known in the BMW world - does anyone have any experience with these guys?

    And are ACL bearings fit for purpose or do people recommend sticking with BMW bearings?
     
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    That's crazy cheap. Wish I could get that kind of price for down south where I am! I would get the engine mounts done too while they're there, as it shouldn't cost any extra labour and most of the time they're shot!
     
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    Not sure I agree on the expired tyre filler. I bet most people would just call the rac/aa if it's a puncture.
     
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    It’s the powerfold mirrors that aren’t standard, they all have electric movement
     
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    Note that if the car has been sold previously by a (main) dealer, you will not get a stack of receipts from before that point, just the stamped up service history due to GDPR.
     
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    Cheers mate you're right, may aswell get the mounts done too while they are under the car. How many mounts are there?

    Ah OK thanks, you'd think powerfold mirrors would be standard on a car like this though!

    That's a fair point, I haven't bought a car since the new GDPR rules came into play so hadn't thought of that. I would usually look for invoices and receipts to back up the service book.. I'm usually quite apprehensive about only a stamped up service book, as anyone could buy one from ebay and fill it in themselves!


    Was the running in service on these simply an oil change or was there more to it? And should that be documented in the idrive? Also can only bmw update the service entries on the idrive or can any independent do it?
     
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    Oops yeah I mean powerfolding mirrors. I wish I had them as I'm normally parked on the right side of a one way road and have to walk around to manually fold the 'exposed' mirror!
     
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    The standard suspension is fine and for most parts edc is not needed but it’s a nice feature when selling on and personally I like hitting the M button and feeling the car adjust lol. Sad but true.

    I have individual audio too which is rarely on but certainly very good and probably desirable.

    Something to point out is you’ll likely find a few cars with lci interior and the pre lci tail lights I’m sure until mid 2010
     
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    Get the saloon, much rarer :D
     
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    Individual audio is awesome, but rare.
    LCI brought stop/start, but code it out to default as off.
    Pre LCI will also have the CIC updated iDrive , as it was introduced in Sept 2008 so on some 58 plates. But lots of these cars seem to be built well before registered, so I've found the older iDrive on quite a few 09 plates.
    You would indeed limit options if you insisted on EDC.
    As said ask for last 7 digits for VIN and put into VIN decoder. I believe data protection has killed off easy options of getting VIN from registration.
    Get a thorough understanding of what services requirements are. Seen many on sale with gaps , maybe not done. Maybe just not recorded.
    Post up any cars you're interested in, this community has been good in digging into information and sometimes finding things which have stopped a bad purchase.
     
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    I think this is a must have now.. I have an extremely tight garage and it would be annoying getting out/in to fold the mirror every time I need to put the car in

    Yeah I have seen a few of these and was confused initially. Do the heated seat buttons higher up only come on the lcis?

    I am not discounting the e90 nor the e93 at the moment as it will be used as a weekend car! (Awaiting the hairdresser jokes :D)

    Good info, thank you. Will link to any ads that I find here :beer:
     
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    Not sure on your budget, but I saw this on AUC * and a quick comparison to A/trader, it seemed decent @£17,995 among then listings (there were 7) under £20k and under 30,000 miles ; plus warranty which would help with rod bearings / actuators.
    Has EDC f/mirrors, bum warmers and feminine aids ;)
    Monte Carlo blue is lovely color and being an "edition." may help with holding value.

    It's in N/Ireland, maybe that precludes it, or maybe adds pressure on them to deal?


    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202005139302601?quoteref=711dab46-fad4-4074-b42e-bdff90167019
     
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    That sounds lovely and is something I would be interested in with it being an auc with warranty. Would definitely put my mind at ease for the first year!

    However I don't know how it would work with me buying a car from there? I take it it is still uk registered so wouldn't need re-registering or anything? I did try to call them but it seems they are closed
     

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