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  1. 2 Aug 2020 at 4:44 PM #1
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    I was using my PC and bought a Buffalo Linkstation. Stuck my existing drives in it and use that to stream to all devices either uPNP or SMB to the various tablets, TVs and Kodi boxes in the house.
     
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    Hi,

    I've previously used Synology solutions and been very happy with those! Haven't needed a system at home for a few years now as hard drive capacities have grown to 6/8/10 TB and so I've just used them locally on my laptop. However, things are always changing to will be getting another Synology solution soon'ish and most likely a 4 bay device to rip the 3000 or so CD's I have in deep storage and conversion of Classic DVD films as well so at least they're available via the home network - don't need to view those DVD's on the big TV's but would be perfectly viewable on the various tablets and smaller TV's in bedrooms/kitchen etc as well as on phones.

    QNAP are the other alternative to Synology, just as good/respected etc, so these two brands are the market leaders. The Buffalo product range and Netgear are also good alternatives. There's various reviews online for home NAS solutions and each brand has various models reviewed etc so search some out.

    Cheers, Dennis!
     
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    If you have hardware laying around you can use FreeNAS which is decent.
     
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    I have a couple of QNAP Nas - 1 does media and general storage duties the other is just for CCTV and automation.

    Really pleased with both of them and they are simple to use and yet at the same time have so much opportunity to fiddle with and learn more as you get more proficient with Linux and running things like Docker.

    BB are also very good to deal with and nearly all of my kit has come from them.

    If I had one piece of advice it would be to buy a unit with more drive bays and capacity than you think you might need. This is especially true if you want to use RAID (basically a way of spreading your data out over more than one drive so if one fails you lose nothing).

    For media serving purposes the benefit of a dedicated NAS is that you run something like Plex 24/7 with the ability to process and stream just about any format you can imagine and the smaller network hard drives just don’t have the power.

    As you get more proficient and grow into learning how Linux works you can do all kinds of cool things like Sonarr, Radarr, Lidarr downloading (google if you don’t recognise these), running a vpn and ad-blockers across your network, backing up to and from cloud storage, running the NAS as a Mac Time Machine etc.

    Short version - buy with an eye on the future not now for space, QNAP and BB both highly recommended.

    Edit - this bloke’s channel tells you more than you could ever wish to know about buying a NAS. He’s a proper geek but it’s useful research.

    This video is good as any to start with

     
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    What software are you using to rip DVDs and music?
     
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    Are you on Mac or PC ?
     
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    I had some excellent software years ago for ripping normal definition film DVD's, so I've got a smaller capacity hard drive (750 GB I think) with some of my DVD's ripped to smaller file sizes on it. I can't remember the name of the software now! For all my Audio CD's, I think i'll perhaps use Microsoft's media player as it has a tool built in to rip to FLAC.

    I'm well out of the loop nowadays for 'ripping' and size converting for films DVD's etc so will need to have recommendations from others too !

    Cheers, Dennis!
     
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    I’ve got a 4 bay Netgear NAS with WD Red drives in it set up as JBOD. I use it with SYNCTOY just to replicate my internal HDD’s selective contents. It’s been in operation for 8 years continuously and I cannot fault it.
     
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    This software will do DVDs

    https://handbrake.fr

    This software will rip a blu ray to an MKV file and then Handbrake can take the MKV file and make it a smaller MP4/M4V file compatible with all things Apple and beyond.

    https://www.makemkv.com

    On Handbrake you can select the audio tracks, set resolutions, add in subtitles, have multiple languages, build a file in 1080p HD which will ply on anything wit steer audio for mobile and 5.1 for home cabmen in the same file etc.

    both are free and widely used. Make MKV may need you to occasionally redownload the permanent beta

    Note that in both they create s ingle video file so you lose menu structure and extras but they preserve chapters. If you use Plex as the media player/server for your films and tv rips you can add in extras, trailers etc etc easily

    For music I use this

    https://www.dbpoweramp.com

    Not free but very customisable and can do multi rips i.e. take an album rip and tag one copy as MP3 for mobile devices and one as lossless (ALC. FLAC etc) for high quality.
     
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    EAC for music CDs and DVDFab for DVD / Blu-Ray / 4k.
     
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    What are the benefits of using NAS vs Hi-Res streaming via DAC?
     
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    NAS really comes into its own if you are using a multi room setup like Sonos, MusicCast, HEOS etc so you have multiple zones and players accessing one library

    Am I right in thinking you are talking about a USB DAC on laptop out to a player of some sort ?
     
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    I have a really cheap setup that works really well.

    I’ve got a DLink 320L 2 bay NAS that I’ve had for years. It has two 2tb hard drives configured in a RAID 1 setup (mirror image). I can watch the movies via my Nvidia Shield (Ethernet or wi-fi) which works fantastic. Playback is with either Kodi or VLC Player. Haven’t quite managed to get it working my my PS4, that’s a work in progress.

    Cheap setup, but serves my needs.
     
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    I use a dragonfly DAC for my headphones but I was thinking more along the lines of Hi Res streaming and then through a proper DAC (slim amp style). I see the benefits of using the setup you mentioned.
     
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    Big thumbs up for the NVidia Shield - cracking little things
     
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    So my CDs are stored away - so do you suggest ripping all these to a drive on NAS? Didn’t think anyone bought CDs anymore.
     
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    Got it - yep you could still use a NAS for that depending on what software and players you use.

    I’ve just got into a music system called Roon which you can buy various endpoints for or make cheap ones using Raspberry Pi and it can serve hi-res from NAS.

    All the hi-res capable network streamers can use NAS too. Sonos has also just been updated for hi-res too.
     
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    I did - it took ages but was worth it.

    Make sure you back it all up though !

    The problem with the digital stuff that really annoys me is that albums from the main online suppliers are still priced like CDs (or more) but lower quality (mp3 or standard Apple format) and then the hi-res stuff is stupidly over priced. There doesn’t seem to be a cd quality equivalent that’s readily available for buying and keeping.

    CDs are so cheap from Amazon I still buy them sometimes and rip at lossless quality as a result.

    Edit - there is always this option too

    https://ripcaster.co.uk/cd_conversi...MIyZqR25T96gIVb4BQBh1qJAU5EAAYASAAEgIl3PD_BwE
     
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    Lordy, what’s wrong with a bookshelf of high speed reel-to-reel? Much less complicated.
     
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