1. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:24 PM #1
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    On my way back home from work yesterday afternoon and went round a sharp bend that I've been round pretty much everyday for the last 25 years. Traction was in MDM, which I pretty much always drive in, and the car just went, no amount of opposite lock or keep your foot in was gonna save it and I ended up on the opposite side of the road in a shallow ditch up against the hedge. The car isn't damaged too bad but will need a new front wing, rear quarter, side skirt and rear bumper however it drives fine with no mechanical damage. Has anyone else ever had this and just a quick warning that MDM isn't a foolproof safety net?
     
  2. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:34 PM #2
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    Was the road wet?
     
  3. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:38 PM #3
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    What age of car? I think I read that MDM changed behaviour over the years, and earlier cars allowed far more leeway before intervening.
     
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    Diesel on the road maybe ?
     
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    Damp yes, makes me wonder whether all the rain we've had has washed the roads of all their contaminates and created a soupy mess on top of them.
     
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    Oh, and sorry to hear about your incident, but at least no injuries I assume.
     
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    Jeez that is bad news.
    Hope you are ok and as you know the car can be fixed.
    Was there diesel on the road?
     
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    Check the tread on the rears. I completely lost it on a roundabout one night and had no inclination that I was anywhere near to losing traction, but discovered I was down to 3mm tread.
     
  9. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:40 PM #9
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    Its a 2015 but its running the latest software, so less peaky than it was when I first had it.
     
  10. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:42 PM #10
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    On all M cars I've owned Ive never used MDM unless its a bone dry summers day.
     
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    Makes me wonder. It was literally like having a rug pulled from beneath you.
     
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    Yeah i'm fine thanks just massively shook up and the ego bruised a bit. Luckily no one was coming the other way!
     
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    Sounds like something on the road to me, I doubt it's car related unless you're driving around on racing slicks.

    At least the damage is minimal and you're ok :thumbsup:
     
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    M4’s are known for being sketchy in the wet...

    Perhaps your tyres were not warm either, which meant you had less mechanical grip, or perhaps you hit standing water which would result in a complete loss of traction.

    Shame you had the knock but it is a lesson learned nevertheless.

    The main thing is that you are safe, no one else was hurt and the car is not a write off.
     
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  15. 9 Oct 2020 at 2:47 PM #15
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    No there fine, brand new MPSS only 2.5k ago. This gave no indication either just spun on a sixpence!
     
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    Took me a few weeks before I had the confidence to chuck the car about again. A few weeks and several hundred quid on tyres, obviously :)
     
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    I'm a bit like that now, I loved MDM up to this point and the little bit of freedom it gives you but its definitely made me a tad wary going forward. Maybe no more M2 button until the spring!! It does make me consider MP4S on the rear when I need to change, had them on my tuned M135i and they felt great in all conditions.
     
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    I can imagine how scary that was having written off my last M3 on black ice. I totally lost confidence and jumped straight into 4x4's for a decade. I find the F83 excellent for traction even in the wet. I do think the heavy roof helps. I sure it won't take you long to build your confidence back up.....well not 10 years like me.:oops:
     
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  19. 9 Oct 2020 at 3:05 PM #19
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    I always use MDM but then again I never go out in the wet with the car. It's always saved me when needed. As others have said maybe just use it in the dry and when the tyres have warmed up.
     
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    Do you use it on cold dry roads?
     

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