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  1. 10 Jul 2018 at 11:27 PM #1
    SHINDS71

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    Link doesn’t work fella.:thumbsup:
     
  3. 11 Jul 2018 at 1:01 PM #3
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    sorry.....should be it now
     
  4. 11 Jul 2018 at 1:46 PM #4
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    If it’s no good you could always buy my CS!! SMG though but rare colour:)
     
  6. 11 Jul 2018 at 6:08 PM #6
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    i know scott ..looks great..contemplated that and not far from me but defo want a manual!!!
     
  7. 11 Jul 2018 at 6:18 PM #7
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    Ok no worries can’t blame you for wanting a manual. Although never had any issue with SMG!! Famous last words:muttley:

    If you change your mind you can take a look. Been a nightmare with time wasters trying to sell so far!!
     
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    I'm so glad I sold my immaculate manual CS for £13k! LOL
     
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    Just get it converted :thumbsup:
     
  10. 17 Jul 2018 at 1:10 PM #10
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    what sort of cost is involved doing that???
     
  11. 22 Jul 2018 at 6:22 PM #11
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    Depends on if you do it, give it to a garage and also how you have it done.

    The two way to do it are:

    1) Go with an aftermarket shifter
    Leave the bellhousing unmodified
    -Get a self-centralising shifter. RTD and CAE do these between £400-800 In theory this can be done with the gearbox in situ.
    -Cut the shifter blanking plate out so that the shifter can be fitted.
    -Remove the SMG bits from the gearbox. That's the clutch slave cylinder, gearbox actuator and GPS sensor.

    2) Stick to a stock shifter
    Change the bellhousing; you need this if you want a factory shifter
    -Either get a manual bellhousing as Mitesh did or get the SMG bellhousing machined; a bloke here and on eBay does it for £360. Of course, the gearbox will have to come out for this. You could get a manual 'box but at least with the SMG you know the 'box itself is good.
    -Cut a hole for the gear shifter to go; there is already a blanking plate present on SMGs for this.
    -Buy and fit the shifter bracket into the gearbox tunnel.

    This applies to both once you've done the above
    -Get an E46 (maybe E90/F80) master cylinder and an M3 slave cylinder. You'll need a clutch pedal from an E46 as well as the pipework (Pirtek or somewhere similar can make this or you can buy the factory item, albeit with the Clutch Delay Valve (CDV) in place. You'll also need a clutch pedal sensor and possibly a gear position sensor depending on how you want to code the car.
    -A small amount of wiring go with the wiring of the car. There are a couple of choices here, but both will lead to the same end result; this depends on if you want the gear position sensor in place as per a factory manual or want the car coding without it; the Z3Ms ran like this.
    -Code it; Martyn's tool can code alot but to get the cruise/PDC to work you'll need to code it a little more.

    It's not that bad a job compared to a few things.

    In theory the RTD (self-centralising shifter) route is simpler and cheaper and should leave you with a nicer gearshift over a stock manual. It's the way I'd probably do with an RTD Mini shifter.

    Some people here have paid £1.5k, others have paid £3k IIRC. I've noticed myself a few ex-SMGs are floating the classifieds, more than there were previously.
     
  12. 22 Jul 2018 at 6:37 PM #12
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    Or..wait for the spec/gearbox you want and buy that.:thumbsup:
     
  13. 22 Jul 2018 at 10:51 PM #13
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    IMHO finding a good M3 is harder than it used to be irrelevant of spec unless you are willing to spend.

    Many buy them but many can't afford to run them or don't want to run them right. After all, when a big service on a diesel will cost £300 vs. £600+ for an Inspection II. That's before I get to tyres, brakes...
     
  14. 27 Jul 2018 at 12:25 AM #14
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    Yeah he charges a good premium on his cars, went to visit him and a great driver but got scared off by some stories I heard. Wont say any details as I would like to not get banned haha
     

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