M2 CS

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  1. 12 Jan 2020 at 11:26 PM #21
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    It won't be anymore than a mildly tweaked M2 Competition that would be cheaper to create and daresay go better with some wise mods .

    The whole pricing structure at BMW has gone mad .

    The whole point of the M cars is to appeal to the petrol head that cannot afford the exotic brands like Porsche , Ferrari , Lambo etc and give them a car that can keep up with these supercars whilst being a practical usable everyday vehicle[/QUOTE]

    Hit the nail on the head there mate. The price of the m2cs is insane.
     
  2. 13 Jan 2020 at 10:36 AM #22
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    It will go the same way as the M4 CS. The road tests will be positive and will no doubt say its the ultimate M2. Of course it fcking is , it costs 80K !! Honestly, you need to have a screw loose to pay that. Given you can get nearly new M2 comps for mid 40s , the pricing makes no sense.

    The recent limited edition M cars have all plummeted in value because the improvement in the driving experience is nominal in everyday use and thus the premiums charged are unsustainable. The M4 CS was hailed as the ultimate M4 but has dropped in value like a stone as the real world advantage of it largely cosmetic. Now its down at around 55k , then for sure its much more attractive.

    The M2 CS will be helped by its relative rarity but those buying to 'flip' at a profit will have to be very quick as witnessed by the M4 GTS and DTM.
     
  3. 14 Jan 2020 at 9:54 AM #23
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    I know someone who’s got an allocation , never brought a brand new bm and is driving it straight from collection to a garage to flip it for him
     
  4. 14 Jan 2020 at 10:23 AM #24
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    I really hope he does turn a profit but can't see it personally. The new GT4 porker is trading at at least a 25% premium in the same way the first version did. The M2 CS does not warrant a premium. History suggests it will head lower as do all the recent special edition Ms.

    The only way BMW shift these is on PCP and the list price when new is largely irrelevant. To buy one to flip it sounds like a recipe for disaster. Certainly feels like the special editions will keep coming thick and fast so any premiums will be very short lived.
     
  5. 14 Jan 2020 at 1:37 PM #25
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    I really hope he loses money. Not a fan of this practice.

    Been offered an £8k discount. Be surprised if they honour that.
     
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    I've seen an M4 CS on Pistonheads advertised below 50k. No way the M2 CS will hold any form of premium. I think a cutter is offering an M2 Comp 68 plate for 37k. I think the bubble of premiums for special editions holds only for the ferrari and porsches.
     
  7. 15 Jan 2020 at 7:53 AM #27
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    I've been offered an allocation. I put a deposit down early 2017 if I remember correctly.

    I thought if it is something really special I'll get a few free years out of it and it might even make a few quid. I was hoping for a proper CSL/GTS lightweight version.

    But it doesn't look special enough. Like the other CS cars it has a remap and some carbon tat and while I'm sure it will be great I can't see them holding their value.
     
  8. 15 Jan 2020 at 8:29 AM #28
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    Its a shame that its being viewed as an investment rather than a driving machine. That's the core issue - i'd imagine the M2 comp will provide 95% of the driving experience for half the price. Some of the upgrades on the CS can be added to the Comp.

    If you're buying it to drive it and enjoy it and the residuals are irrelevant , then fine. Very few of these limited edition models are bought for that reason.
     
  9. 15 Jan 2020 at 1:07 PM #29
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    These are hardly deprecating at the moment, they have been £80k for the last 12 months. It will come with 12 months warranty and it will cost £3k ish for a warranty extension, (if kept over 12 months) a service will be a couple of grand. I think you could run this for a year for less than £20k, I think the the M2 will lose ££25k in its first year.
     
  11. 15 Jan 2020 at 1:41 PM #31
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    i think that's a fair point. You have to remember that the M2 is based on a sports coupe , not a built for purpose supercar like the Mclaren. I think the depreciation curve for the Maccer has bottomed whereas buying new is always going to result in heavy depreciation. There are exceptions as we all know , but there is no way any iteration of a 2 series is worth 80k !! May as well go for a first gen GT4 which will depreciate nominally given the new one is trading in excess of 100k . But again , financing will be cheaper on the M2 CS - hardly a reason to buy it
     
  12. 15 Jan 2020 at 4:57 PM #32
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    I wasn't really thinking of it as an investment. I just loved the idea of a proper lightweight version with a cage. I would have tracked it, driven it properly and thought there was a good chance it would be a very cheap indulgence as well. I think a modified M2C would be the better choice now, for my intended purpose. I can't see any value in the CS range of cars.
     
  13. 16 Jan 2020 at 7:07 PM #33
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    I read on Pistonheads that BMWUK are bringing 104 cars to the UK.
     
  14. 17 Jan 2020 at 7:20 PM #34
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    TRL has posted that there’s 355 UK cars, and they had over 1500 orders.

    Says they got allocated 2 slots and they both went to good BMW customers of his....

    Surely they can’t sell 355 instantly like that after the M3/4CS debacle?
     
  15. 17 Jan 2020 at 7:21 PM #35
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    @ScottBacon whats your take on the situation mate?
     
  16. 17 Jan 2020 at 7:27 PM #36
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    Well a lot will buy to flip immediately at great profit.
     
  17. 17 Jan 2020 at 7:47 PM #37
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    Never thought I’d see this....Stu and an M2....

    I think it’ll be great.

    Let a few hang around unsold whilst the economy implodes and pick up an unreg car 6-9 months after launch for a 20-25k dizzy.

    I know a few who’ve reversed out.
     
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    My take is that I hope ive got one coming :muttley:
     
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  19. 17 Jan 2020 at 7:54 PM #39
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    Haha genuinely I do see why people by them they are good to drive though I think bmw missed a HUGE trick with them.

    I'm visualising an M2 with performance seats etc. They could have made them so much more special like the 1m.
     
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    That’s contradictory to a lot of information that’s out, just one example posted on Babybmw

    ‘Having a confirmed allocation for the M2CS I thought I would clear up the confusion and misinformation being stated regarding the M2CS UK numbers/allocation.

    There is 104 BMW M2CS's allocated for the UK market. I have it writing from BMW UK and so does my supplying dealer. There maybe a couple more but mainly for UK press/BMW UK HQ cars, 104 for customers.

    There is not 2 cars allocated per BMW Dealer. Not all dealers got an allocation and even some dealer groups didn't even get one.

    Just over 1500 registered customers are wanting one.

    Hope this clears up a few things.


    If you turn down the allocation, dealers will notify BMW UK and they select the next customer on the list, not your dealer.’
     
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