Low vs high milers

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  1. 14 Apr 2016 at 6:46 PM #1
    Jimmy Nod

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    I'm looking to get an E46 M3 and wondered what the forums opinion was on low mileage examples versus lower cost higher mileage examples .
    I've Seen some advertised for around £20k late models with around 25k miles.

    Are they really worth £8k more than earlier models with 80k miles ?

    Also is the SMG version worth more than the manual ?
     
  2. 14 Apr 2016 at 6:48 PM #2
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    High milers are fine if properly serviced. Smg cars are worth less than manual.
     
  3. 14 Apr 2016 at 6:58 PM #3
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    Ha! Didn't even know this section existed

    I've never seen any evidence to suggest manuals go for any more or less than SMGs ...different people want different things.
     
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    In the automotive world engines are tested in terms of hours.

    100 hours at 50 mph, 100 hours at 15 mph (average speeds) gives very different outcomes on the odometer. So in terms of engine condition, mileage doesnt show an awful lot.

    If we use mileage as a reflection of drivetrain condition etc, then its more accurate as an indicator, but these items are cheaper and easier to replace.

    So you pay your money and take a choice.

    I have 170k on mine, i bought it with 110k. So in three years id have wiped 60% of the value away from a 'low miler'. However i can probably still sell my car for the price i paid. Free motoring.

    You have to weigh up what you want from the car, and judge on condition rather than miles, but if you do go high mileage, along as you choose wisely, i dont think youll have an issue.
     
  5. 14 Apr 2016 at 7:17 PM #5
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    If it is not a CSL when paying £20K you are well into E92 money....................................
     
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    Whether you love it or hate it you can't deny that the smg has an awful reputation.

    Op the most desirable cars are low milage, late model, manual coupes in good colour combos. On the flip side smg, convertibles in rubbish colour combos are worth less.

    If you haven't seen the evidence you haven't been looking very hard or you own an smg and you are in denial :peace:
     
  7. 14 Apr 2016 at 9:49 PM #7
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    Good point well made thanks

    I think I'll try and get a really well looked after one and not get too hung up on the mileage
     
  8. 14 Apr 2016 at 9:51 PM #8
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    Is that a river in Egypt? Does the water get in the GPS?
     
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    True , but I prefer the E46?
     
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    Yea water getting in it causes the "cog of doom".

    Also.

    Water not getting in it causes the "cog of doom".
     
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    I think you lost a bit in translation on the hours there, maybe RPM related?

    You mention drivetrain wear, and that's all rotating components, just like crank etc, the only think that directly de-couples mileage form engine wear is the gearbox because otherwise engine wear would be directly relatable to mileage
     
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    I've had 5 E46 M3's, one sub 40k, one sub 50k two I had from 80k to 100k and the one I got now has 140k, I found the more miles they have the faster they are, they feel loose, the low milers feel nicer like a newer car but they ain't as quick as the high milers
     
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    Isn't there some form of pump to either oil it or pump the water out or something?
     
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    What are the best colour combos
     
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    Like I said, I've never seen any evidence...

    Trawl through the cars for sale ads on here - like for like, SMGs convertibles command the same money as manual coupes. Last year low mileage convertibles seemed to command about £1,000 premium over Coupes. Different people want different things.
     
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    Yes petrolheads for coupes, posers for verts :roflmao:
     
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    +1 However, the manual gearbox has to be more reliable. I have read numerous threads around the "Cog of Death"....

    As the E46 moves towards modern classic status the manual box will become more valued. :thumbsup:
     
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    Colour combos are where you can save some money as your personal taste might not reflect that of the market.

    Any individual colour usually commands a small premium.

    Red , and silver grey seem to be quite sought after.

    Grey interiors seem be least desirable as do silver cars.
     
  19. 15 Apr 2016 at 11:01 AM #19
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    Love this thread! and can only echo a lot of comments..

    Colour combo's are personal..

    I liked in order
    Estoril Blue / Black - I ended up with Estoril/Grey, but will refurb interior and I can live with it 'clean'.
    Silver Grey / Imola / Cinnamon - Loved those combos
    Carbon Black / Imola - Classy, but dark coloured paint is my nemesis as swirl marks and keeping clean are a pig.

    THe grey leather is one of the worst if not looked after, it gets ingrained dirt etc.. but Estoril / Grey must have been the most popular individual combo ever.. The grey is now growing on me, and when I get the fronts completely refurbed, clean grey leather is actually not so bad and has certainly grown on me!
     
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    Great thread...I guess I fall into the minority with an SMG Vert? This fitted "MY" needs and I was very aware of the cog of death along with resale vaules when I bought the car some 2 years ago (this would be intresting !! I won't declare what I have spent on it upto date) the choice was simple something different for the weekends as I drive a company car. I have a decent choice from Audi, BM, Merc ect... I think you need to make the choice given your circumstances what you want the car for? a daily or a toy to upgrade ! Sorry a little of the op's question!!
     

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