Loked out of car - ideas to get in

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  1. 14 Sep 2018 at 5:40 PM #1
    westonb

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    I'm locked out of my e36 m3 and i'm running out of ideas as to how to get into it short of smashing a window.

    Some years ago I reshelled the car, i didn't change the locks barrels in the doors and it's now bitten me in the arse. To make matter worse i think i binned the door keys in error thinking they were for another car.

    Recently I stripped out all of the interior in preparation for paint. In doing so I have flattened the battery to a point that the central locking has cleared the key programming.

    I removed the trim in the boot and the boot light switch didn't depress fully so the light stayed on and the battery ran totally flat. I only figured this out when i fitted a new battery and had the sense to check it.

    I can get into the boot and to the central locking solanoid.
    I wondered if i could trip the central locking by sending a feed down one of the wires with a power probe. I havn't tried this yet because i don't want to fry any of the control units and i don't have any knowledge of the wiring.

    It's a saloon with a ski pack (which I've removed) that's how i managed to get onto the door handles from the boot.


    To summarise;

    The car won't open on the key, even with a fresh battery.

    I have the key for the boot and the ignition but not the doors.

    I can access the boot. I can't get into the car or under the bonet.

    I have been able to get a hook onto the door pulls via the boot but the doors won't open at all from the inside.

    I have also managed to get some fishing line tied onto the lock pop up's but that doesn't open the doors either.



    I would appreicate some ideas before i put a brick through the window.

    cheers
     
  2. 14 Sep 2018 at 6:04 PM #2
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    I think there is the "double lock" signal in the boot lid lock wiring. (double lock means you can't open the locks from the inside). Would need to check the wiring diagram for it.
    But that's where I would start ... wiring diagram to see what's available to you.

    Ski pack ... hmm, so does that mean you have the rear folding seats? Is there any way to gain access to the seat lock?

    Is the rear parcel shelf removable? Or the speakers? Dunno if that's any help.
     
  3. 14 Sep 2018 at 6:50 PM #3
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    Does the car have an alarm? My car has a Clifford and I can activate/deactivate double locking etc from it.

    I had a similar flat battery issue, but I had spare key for the car.
     
  4. 14 Sep 2018 at 6:53 PM #4
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    The other thought, and I warn you this is quite out of the box thinking...

    Can you somehow open the bonnet, either from inside the car by fishing a hook around the bonnet lever, or from the front by removing a kidney grill and unscrewing the catch.

    Secondly, I assume you have the ignition key, can you fish the key into the barrel and switch the car to accessory position.

    Lastly. Once access to the engine bay, hook up diagnostics to the car and activate either the central locking module or power window modules to gain access etc.
     
  5. 15 Sep 2018 at 3:28 AM #5
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    Very easy to get an e36 bonnet open if you don't mind possibly breaking some of the brittle clips on the grilles.
     
  6. 15 Sep 2018 at 9:27 AM #6
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    so,

    you are in the boot, with a small hatch through the rear seats open?

    The car has full power

    the key will operate the boot lock but not the rest?

    does closing, locking and unlocking the boot not trigger the rest of the locking, now the car has a fresh battery? It does on my vert, I know cos I just tried it to see.....
     
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    You need an auto locksmith, a good one will get in without causing any damage to your car. I'm one, but you're too far from me.

    No point in smashing the window, as you still won't be able to open the door.

    I could probably get you a number if you don't have any luck
     
  8. 15 Sep 2018 at 10:41 AM #8
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    Get the bonnet open. Stick some jump leads on the battery connectors and unlock the car

    Easiest way
     
  9. 15 Sep 2018 at 10:50 AM #9
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    Huh!? A key should always unlock a car.

    I thought you miraculously locked the car with they key inside.

    This is even stranger.
     
  10. 15 Sep 2018 at 12:10 PM #10
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    Double lock your drivers door with the key as per handbook
    Then try the boot
     
  11. 15 Sep 2018 at 5:26 PM #11
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    Some of you lot can't read:muttley:
     
  12. 15 Sep 2018 at 6:23 PM #12
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    And some of us don't want to tell the world how to undo a double locked E36
     
  13. 15 Sep 2018 at 6:35 PM #13
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    Wish I had patience in a situation like this. I would of got a brick out by now
     
  14. 15 Sep 2018 at 8:24 PM #14
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    Fair enough but if someone wanted in a broken piece of spark plug ceramic is instant and pretty quiet........ooops shouldn't have said that on a public forum:muttley:
     
  15. 15 Sep 2018 at 8:35 PM #15
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    Glass has had the same problem for the last 2000 years so I think that cat is out of the bag already
     
  16. 15 Sep 2018 at 9:33 PM #16
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    Fairly sure the Romans didn't have spark plugs in their chariots.
     
  17. 15 Sep 2018 at 10:27 PM #17
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    They did. But made of clay.
     
  18. 17 Sep 2018 at 3:17 AM #18
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    If the central locking system is all hooked up then close the trunk, and turn the key all the way clockwise (or counter?) and hold it there. Don't all the locks pop then?
     
  19. 17 Sep 2018 at 5:14 PM #19
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    that was my idea too, but apparently not if the doors are double locked....
     
  20. 17 Sep 2018 at 9:59 PM #20
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    Shouldn’t matter. Should unlock the car as well. Which lock you use doesn’t matter.

    Unleas this is the “trunk logic” in the ZKE that I never understood what it does.

    Still, you have a key, it should unlock from the driver’s door alright.
     

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