Hard Work, Attitude, or Luck?

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  1. 14 Jan 2020 at 3:48 PM #21
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    When I finished Uni it was in 2008 right at the start of the recession everyone at my Uni (Kent) was miserable and finding work was hard for a business graduate, my girlfriend at the time (wife today) got a job straight after Uni at Goldman Sachs (she was the clever one), something almost impossible for me to attain. I knew working hard etc would get me somewhere after X years but as I had no real life commitments/responsibilities (kids, wife, cars, houses etc) I thought I would go it alone. So for me it was more courage if anything, and a lot of balls, and doing whatever it takes. Now we are 3 international companies, 52 employees 5 offices just over 10 years later. Things took a long time to see any large returns but the hard work came from being dedicated not so much working hard. I found luck does come your way but luck is everywhere depends where you are looking. So for me, I would say from the 3 above mentioned, attitude at least 60% of it, 30% hard work and 10% luck.

    I look up to a lot of hard workers in any field and appreciate how much people do for their families and looking after their responsibilities, for me this is everything and I always want more and more of it myself. It stretches you as a person and nothing feels better as a man.
     
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  2. 14 Jan 2020 at 4:55 PM #22
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    I was lucky that I flunked out of officer training.

    Much better paid and better work life balance outside.

    Wouldn't say I work that hard, the work comes fairly naturally, but I do go above and beyond when required.
     
  3. 14 Jan 2020 at 5:08 PM #23
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    Old career (sales) was 80% luck, as I fell into it: my mates mum was a manager and gave us both jobs to get us out of trouble, and it grew from there. Wasted 8 years in that god awful career.

    My second career (Engineer) was a conscious choice to pursue, after an epiphany whilst trekking in the Himalayas. It took complete re-skilling, having to go back to college as an apprentice on 1/4 of the wage I was on before. I got one of 22 places on the apprenticeship, which had 1500 applicants. That wasn’t luck, that was being prepared, and having a natural propensity to the skills and knowledge required to score high at the selection psychometrics.

    Those first 4 years until I started earning a proper engineers wage we’re all about hard work and sacrifice due to a massive pay cut, but the drive was there focusing on the end result. It was the best choice I ever made, as I love my job now.

    So in the latter career, I would say 70% hard work, 25% attitude and 5% luck.
     
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  4. 14 Jan 2020 at 5:15 PM #24
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    Mental industry, I can’t imagine a load of people in the room when you’re trying to get your rocks off. I guess you need to be able to block all that out and just fixate on the task at hand!
     
  5. 14 Jan 2020 at 5:17 PM #25
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    50% attitude, 40% hard work and 10% luck. I do believe opportunities abound and you have just have to have the confidence to grab them, push those boundaries/ceilings and live your best life.
     
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    To be fair, the majority of people I know who have done very well and retired young, came from a wealthy/well healed families.

    Not many council estate men among them sadly.
     
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    They tend to hit the glass ceiling. My wife was a high earner in the financial sector but didn't go to the right school, was too young and didn't have male genitalia to go any further within her company.

    If people think working hard gets you far, I'd guess they're a white male from a decent upbringing.
     
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    From my experience regardless of background, sex, race, creed or colour anyone can succeed and everyone has different objectives. I deal with lots of individuals within SMES and all have a varied background.
     
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    For 95% of people here it was 95% luck, being born into a first world country. Already puts you ahead of billions of others.
     
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    Of course there is luck. Get food poisoning the night before the boss' boss' boss' visits from NY meaning you lose a networking opportunity. Having a family bereavement at the same time as a great opportunity comes up but you can't leave the country. I could come up will hundreds more examples

    You just have to hope the hard work counteracts the bad luck, and the good luck comes your way at some point
     
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    https://youtu.be/4K5fbQ1-zps This video is eye opening about starting life with a head start.
     
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    I wasnt born in a first world country.
     
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    You are exceptional in many ways...

    Were you born in Birmingham?
     
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    Or is it 40.50.10?
     
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    Hard work definitely opens more doors, but imagine being the most skilled pilot in the world, but being born in the middle ages. You need to be in the right place at the right time. If I were born 10 years earlier I could have paid for my house in cash, but in this day and age that's only a deposit.
     
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    50 / 30 / 20 for me.

    I've busted my balls since 2012 when I opted to go self-employed to be able to put myself in the position to buy a house, launch my own business and start a family. Certainly there are elements of luck at play but I do think falls down to the individual to use situations to their advantage and make the best decision for a desired outcome.
     

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