1. 7 Apr 2021 at 9:16 PM #21
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    Thanks chaps. I’m pretty close with the white one I think. Have agreed a price and other details, just waiting for some service history details. Was serviced very well up until 2015 all at BMW main dealers, was then serviced at an Indy in 2018/9 (three/four year gap, but only around 10k miles done in that time), is now due a full service which I would have done ASAP. Only problem is that the guy can’t find the record of the service in 2018/9, so until he does the car only effectively has service history up until 2015 then nothing since. That service record is going to be a deal breaker for me so hopefully he manages to find it tomorrow!
     
  2. 7 Apr 2021 at 9:56 PM #22
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    Just one service in his 5 years of ownership ,that was potentially 2 years late , would, in itself, be a deal breaker for me.
     
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    This raises an interesting debate. As these cars get older, does a gap in history, bearing in mind there’s no proof it hasn’t not been done. Just there’s no documented info for it, does it matter as much?

    Provided it receives a mega service, and perhaps including bearings done, is there really much that a gap in the history can cause a problem with?
     
  4. 7 Apr 2021 at 10:18 PM #24
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    I’m interpreting this example as definitely not been done (more than the one time) as that’s the seller’s own narrative.

    I’d be concerned if someone can use a car knowing it is due a service and neglecting to service it. Will they put 98 RON in? Will they warm it up? These things are supposedly important. I don’t have the mechanical knowledge to prove otherwise.
    With a private sale there is no warranty.
    It would make me uncomfortable.
    Spending on bearings on a 2012 car at low mileage I feel is a burden. And one I would only be suffering because an owner didn’t follow a simple service schedule.
    Wouldn’t feel right.
     
  5. 7 Apr 2021 at 10:23 PM #25
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    Not really, I'd be happy if the cars fine, its just questions asked when its time to sell, I've seen cars that are a right horror show with immaculate service history and vise versa, you just need to take cars for what the car is and not buying the paperwork I find, I've never had a problem with selling my old cars with all the work I've done myself with handwritten records!
     
  6. 7 Apr 2021 at 10:27 PM #26
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    I personally wouldn’t buy a car which hasn’t been serviced on time, regardless of mileage covered.
     
  7. 7 Apr 2021 at 10:53 PM #27
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    I am the same and think it shows the owner may have neglected in other areas. It's not like the service intervals are every 6 months. As soon as a service is due I book it in with BMW. Some people (not me) even have interim services in between the recommended intervals.
     
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    Agree that it is not perfect, but as these cars get older it's going to be less likely to find a perfectly serviced car. Additionally, I think that the mileage does have some weight to the argument. The service history on the white car is as follows:

    22/3/2013 - c.1100 miles - RIS
    10/10/13 - 1358 miles - Warranty work
    31/03/2014 - 3967 miles - Oil service
    18/09/14 - warranty work
    2/7/15 - 17294 miles - oil service

    then it goes quite - but I'm hoping for evidence of another oil service in 2018 at around 32,00 miles. Realistically, we are then looking at an up to three year gap, but the car hasn't been used since September last year, bringing it much closer to two years. I'd then give it a full service, brake fluid change etc. which should mitigate the timing issue. If it had done mega mileage between intervals then I agree that it would be much more of an issue for me, but I think the fact pattern above makes the story better than first appears - especially as it has only done around 5,000 miles since the last service (TBC...). The only real concerning area then would be the gap between 2015 and 2018.

    Obviously all the above is actually subject to the overall condition of the car, but the photos and videos of the car supplied appear to show it in very good condition.

    Fingers crossed for some positive news on the 2018 service today!
     
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    This is what I was trying to say. If there’s been a low milage and low usage gap, just get all the work done and get the history back on point during your ownership. I don’t think it will cause any issues further down the line.
     
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    Would the garage that did this 2018 (or 2019) service be on the BMW system, so that a key read would reveal what was done?
     
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    the garage that done the service he has misplaced the paperwork for should be able to confirm it was done
     
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    Yeah, that’s what we are trying to get confirmed now. It’s an Indy though, not BMW so is proving a bit tricky as there was a change of ownership a couple of years ago...
     
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    No service history records of the service completed in 2017 - just an amount on a statement showing payment of £438 to the garage... Looks like the hunt continues!
     
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  15. 8 Apr 2021 at 3:27 PM #35
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    I saw that earlier. Shame it's so far away...
     
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    Probably best. If it’s last (stamped) service was 2015, it’s every 2 years, so should have had another (3rd oil service is the big one) in 2017, another in 2019 and due another one now.

    So by the letter of the proper schedule it has 2 services missed / unaccounted for.
     
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    They say the right car is worth travelling for. Furthest I've been is Glasgow and Southampton (both 250 miles/4 hours away) - but another 150 odd miles is just too far!
     
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    I think you should sell me yours Keith :beer:
     
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    I’m based in the South near London and have bought cars from NI, Aberdeen and Inverness before! Love the road trips home :cool:
     
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    I can’t mate. I just can’t!

    Just taxed it again after winter, been out in it lots, and absolutely ****ing adore the thing!
     
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