Are they so problematic that people are scared to death of them as the prices have plummeted. Or is the market "just not there" for 500 bhp+ saloon cars at the moment or in the future? 16 plate Singapore grey/Extended Silverstone leather... 20" alloys,HK and 360 cams... 56k miles. £25995 at a dealer... That must be a third of its new price in 3 years??? Seems like a huge saving if they arent an unreliable mare.