1. 15 Aug 2019 at 1:24 PM #1
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    So, looking at moving on from subarus, again hahaha and pondering on what to go for.

    I'll have a budget around the 18-20k mark which seems to be a decent budget for quite a few options. Top of my list is a C63 or E92 M3. Having an E46 m3 before I'm aware of the M tax so not to bothered about running costs or mpg as i don't do huge mileage a year. I'd be going DCT gearbox.

    I noticed the rod bearing issue, which at £1400 (evolve tuning price) im not too worried about and prob would just have done on purchase if felt needed.

    But what else is there to worry about? (i know e46 had subframe issues as an example)
     
  2. 15 Aug 2019 at 1:33 PM #2
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    I don't own a c63, but bene in my friends a couple of times. They are very different cars, and the gearbox isn't great on the C. The engine dominates the whole experience, and it felt quite heavy, but very fast. The M is a lot more balanced imo, but maybe has less drama, and is a better overall package to me. Really depends what you are looking for in the car tbh.

    As far as issues, the actuators can go, but not really anything else that common, afaik.
     
  3. 15 Aug 2019 at 1:43 PM #3
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    C63 without contest. Owned E92 followed by C63.
     
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    Both cars are great, have many strengths and weaknesses.

    I would drive both to see what is best for you.

    You should be able to get a facelift C63 with your budget which has a better gearbox than the earlier cars.
     
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  5. 15 Aug 2019 at 2:45 PM #5
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    Depends entirely on how you like to drive and what you want from the car.

    You’ll just get our personal opinions without telling us that.

    My opinion would be M3 all day long ;)
     
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    You should definitely get a C63. I'm not sure why anyone would want an E9X M3.
     
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    Down to personal preference but would suggest you try and drive both before making a decision !
     
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    Forget both and get yourself an RS3. Quicker, more reliable and less hassle all round!!
     
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    not a fan, too much of a mcdonalds chav chariot for my liking haha
     
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  13. 15 Aug 2019 at 4:23 PM #13
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    For 20k its going to be the old model i would assume. Errrrrrr no.
     
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    C63 is an event whenever you drive it,and it will scare the bejesus out of you.They really are a laugh a minute.

    E92 imho just isnt special enough,and apart from the rod bearing issues and throttle actuators,they have plenty of other standard 3 series foibles.
     
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    Within your price range if you prefer auto, you would be better of with the 92. c63 box its a conventional one with torque converter. I cant see it being much fun?
    Dont they also have big issues with head bolts snapping?
    I'd just go cheap e92 dct, budget for the bearings if the mileage is high.That way you get to sleep well at night not worrying about bearings or loosing a lot in depreciation.
    Good luck and let us know on your final decision?
     
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    As echoed above it depends what you want from a car.
    Certain people just want to make noise, want something that looks flash, can’t drive cars the way the are meant to so don’t “get” them. No names mentioned.

    Just don’t be swayed by these opinions. Both good cars, like I said very different. Great suggestions on here about driving both. Btw my fiends one I’ve been is the later model, and I found the gearbox muddled and slow. All in all, not a bad problem to have to choose lol.
     
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  20. 15 Aug 2019 at 5:51 PM #20
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    Lol, they’re more costly than E92s in my experience. My mate at work has one.
    - Snapped head bolts (was losing coolant)
    - New Xenon headlight required
    - Faulty gearbox (cant remember the specifics)
    - Passenger seat mechanism failure
    To name the ones I know about. His car was out if warranty and it’s absolutely crippled him!

    So I’m not sure reliability is a valid argument against either.

    Besides £2k spent on an E92 (shells and actuators) preventatively, leaves you with a pretty much bullet proof car.
     

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