E46 M3 Daily Driver?

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  1. 13 Mar 2019 at 4:34 PM #21
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    Yeah there are but for the money what really compares to an M3 you get to drive everyday. Reliability is only a problem if you've battered it and not given a ****, the cars pretty comfortable to drive I regularly use the motorway and find it more than adequate. Safety ratings and extra might have improved but it's still not a bad car to be in if anything does happen. I'll give you the cheaper point though but if you can own a M3 why park it up
     
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  2. 13 Mar 2019 at 4:47 PM #22
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    Keep on top of maintenance and no issues. I daily mine, use it for long trips, short trips, works for everything. Only thing I'd see as an issue is petrol cost compared to a more efficient car, but you can still get reasonable 25-30 out of them on long runs. Seats are comfy, and if you upgrade the stereo and speakers it'll be a very very nice place to be.

    I keep thinking of a PCP/HP/lease or whatever on a modern car, but then realise that even with the occasional big bill to fix something, i'm still paying less than wasted money on a new car and depreciation.

    But as a daily, no issues at all. I actually make excuses to go off and drive it.
     
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  3. 13 Mar 2019 at 6:12 PM #23
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    5 year old Golf GTD would be my daily, if I needed such a thing.
     
  4. 14 Mar 2019 at 11:43 AM #24
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    Do you think they are special enough though to be treated as anything other wise? They are just a performance coupe not a supercar etc

    Perfect dailys if you can afford the juice
     
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  5. 14 Mar 2019 at 2:19 PM #25
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    Like all cars, it generally comes down to a case of picking two of the following three options;

    Cheap, fast, reliable. Want a fast and reliable M3? It probably won't be as cheap to run or maintain as a 1.0L Fiesta.

    The safety comparison is somewhat lost on me, seeing as most E46s came with airbags everywhere, ABS and ESP, and a chassis that is designed and built to absorb impact around the passenger cell. I reckon you'd be safer in the M3 compared to a brand new Up! though I am only speculating and will happily be proven wrong.
     
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    They are reasonably safe - at least as compared to even older cars, motorcycles, or a Caterham... - but the reality is that the chassis of the E46 is a 20 year old design, and passenger compartment safety has moved on a LOT in that time. You'd be much better off in a nice MkVI or VII diesel Golf (with the best tyres) for safety vs. an E46.

    Reflashed diesel Golf: cheap, fast and reliable. Sorted.
     
  7. 14 Mar 2019 at 2:34 PM #27
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    If the impact doesn't kill you, the shame of owning an Up! will
     
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  8. 14 Mar 2019 at 5:01 PM #28
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    Mine was bought specifically to fill the role of a daily. It fits the job perfectly, is way softer/more comfortable etc.. than the weekend toy.

    I've tried doing the boring crapper thing, you just end up wanting to kill yoursef everytime you get in it. the M3 helps me dread less getting out bed and going to work everyday.
     
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  9. 14 Mar 2019 at 8:48 PM #29
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    well i detail mine more than washing it, i get more blizz standing further away and see how hight gloss it is and clean
     
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    yep thats why i bought my self a cheap civic to commute to work etc. if you want reliability you cant go wrong with honda
     
  11. 14 Mar 2019 at 9:36 PM #31
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    [QUOTE="Nunga, post: 2742764, member: 22217]I reckon you'd be safer in the M3 compared to a brand new Up! though I am only speculating and will happily be proven wrong.[/QUOTE]

    I think you are wrong
    https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/9824/euroncap_bmw_3_series_2001_4stars.pdf

    https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/6769/euroncap_vw_up_2011_5stars.pdf

    As I said, occupant protection has come along in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years since the E46 was designed, and even in the 10 years until the Up! was designed.
     
  12. 15 Mar 2019 at 9:12 AM #32
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    I think you are wrong
    https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/9824/euroncap_bmw_3_series_2001_4stars.pdf

    https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/6769/euroncap_vw_up_2011_5stars.pdf

    As I said, occupant protection has come along in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years since the E46 was designed, and even in the 10 years until the Up! was designed.[/QUOTE]

    well i saw an m3 drive down a cliff on a you tube vid and the guy survived without a scratch.

    having said that, id rather drive around in a e46 m3 that turns peoples heads, be unsfafer.... than driving a up
     
  13. 15 Mar 2019 at 1:17 PM #33
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    As I said gents, I was happy to be proven wrong! I’d take the 20yo M3 over a Golf GTI, up! or any cheap hack all day long.
     
  14. 15 Mar 2019 at 2:36 PM #34
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    Bought mine as a daily and no regrets. First year was pretty expensive, but now I’ve (hopefully) addressed all of the known weaknesses and issues, I’m hoping costs will settle down.

    I still get a buzz every time I drive it and know I’d be bored s***less driving a small diesel and keeping the M3 in the garage for high days and holidays.

    Each to their own of course and my opinion might be different if I still lived in London (nearly all of my driving is on interesting country roads).
     
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  15. 15 Mar 2019 at 3:18 PM #35
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    Crawling across the central London at an average of 7mph, I can visibly see the fuel needle move down...
     
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    I've managed to get sub 10mpg in london traffic
     
  17. 15 Mar 2019 at 5:03 PM #37
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    I think I average both 7mph and 7 mpg, and about 700 mpc (miles per clutch) :muttley:
     
  18. 15 Mar 2019 at 10:01 PM #38
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    Thanks for all your rather helpful responses chaps! Im still somewhat in two minds but i do like the idea of the car maintaining its value over a period of a number of years versus a lease or PCP where you are almost guaranteed to loose money.

    The cost of fuel doesn't worry too much. How much are we talking about in terms of consumables? Discs and Pads etc?
     
  19. 15 Mar 2019 at 10:05 PM #39
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    Discs and pads are circa £200 a corner, tyres £150+ per corner for premium rubber.
     
  20. 15 Mar 2019 at 10:34 PM #40
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    If your not worried about fuel and you've done your research then you'll know what high jobs need to have been done and you would look towards the 10k+ market where most cars have already had to money spent on them.

    As mentioned disc are around 200 a corner
    Services from 100-500
    Swap oil and filter every 5-7k £70
    Tax pre 06 £315 after 06 £500
    Tyres full set of premiums 650+

    There's cheaper daily drivers just depends what your after, there's nothing cheap about running an E46 and sometimes it feels like a hobby because they need that bit of attention so frequently.

    If your trying to budget the car then I'd stay clear of them, they need to know your wallet is free to spend as things can crop up. In the 8k I've done the largest expense has been an oil cooler that was cracked by a stone.
     
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