E46 Electric Rear Blind

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  1. 10 Dec 2017 at 11:03 PM #41
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    right, so put it all in today, wired it up the centre switch, and, nothing :/

    just so i can cross check with the isntal instructions I got of the internet:
    - does it matter which wire is which out of the two?
    - what pins should they go into on the centre console switch?
     
  2. 10 Dec 2017 at 11:25 PM #42
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    Few things it could be. Firstly, I'm assuming you have the correct switch panel (it's specific for the E46 M3 vs other E46 models. And the coupe version is different to the convertible....). You'll know you have the correct switch panel if has "Sport", "DSC" and "tyre pressure monitor" buttons at least... (HK and heated seats optional).
    If it doesn't have those three buttons at least, or if there are vert roof buttons, you have the wrong button panel!

    In answer to your questions:
    - Yes, it does matter which wire is which, one is positive and one negative. If they don't work, try swapping them over.
    - the two wires need to go into Pins 14 and 15 on the back of the connector plug for the centre console switch panel.

    If all of the above are correct (and assuming the blind itself isn't faulty) it should work, no problem. Mine did, first time.... Hope that helps :thumbsup:
     
  3. 11 Dec 2017 at 7:28 AM #43
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    Yep, switch panel is correct, it's the fully loaded one, and was new from cotswold, so I don't see that being the problem.

    Probably the unlucky wires wrong way round. I'll try that one this evening, cheers!

    The other thing missing from the guide is the size of the 3 screws required to bolt the blind into position, any idea what size they should be or part number? Or if they're required?
     
  4. 11 Dec 2017 at 2:10 PM #44
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    AFIAK the wires can be either way, as they swap polarity to go up and down.
     
  5. 11 Dec 2017 at 2:48 PM #45
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    That's strange then, as they are wired to the correct pins on the centre console, but it just doesn't do anything...

    Been looking at this though:
    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1779525-DIY-Retrofit-Rear-Electric-Blind

    and it seems like if the extra wires that go in for the heated seats aren't there that the rear blind won't work either.

    Seeing as I am missing that wiring for the heated seats, that might explain why the 2 conenctor job isn't a two connector job if you've come from a poverty spec M3 (like mine was)
     
  6. 11 Dec 2017 at 3:14 PM #46
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    Mine was a povo spec m3 mate, it just had the 3 buttons (rdc dsc and sport), when i bought mine.

    All I did was buy a new button panel and then fit it, it all works.

    Added the blind, seats and hk was as and when and it all worked out the box. no hassble.

    do the orginal 3 buttons still work mate? you have plugged the smaller 4 pin plug back in yes??

    What wires does you brown plug have??
     
  7. 11 Dec 2017 at 3:17 PM #47
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    The rear blind was fitted before the hetaed seats on mine and needed no extra wireing (other than the blind).
     
  8. 11 Dec 2017 at 4:38 PM #48
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    Did the actual rear blind unit need power to it? as in, other wiring other than the two wires? I'm struggling with this one a bit, as the only thing I can think of is that it needs some kind of power to the blind from the boot somewhere.

    Cheers for all the help by the way, I ended yesterday in frustration at none of it working.

    That'll teach me to rewire stuff outside whilst it's snowing.
     
  9. 11 Dec 2017 at 4:43 PM #49
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    You only need the 2 wires mate.

    The console works out up/down.

    Did you test the blind???

    You can test it from te wires. Just take them out of the console plug and drop the pins across a 12v supply that will tell you if the blind and wires are right.

    The plug on the blind is correct ??? Or the wires line up in the. 3pin plug??
     
  10. 11 Dec 2017 at 5:42 PM #50
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    I'll test the blind, is easy to get to as haven't put the rear seats back into it yet. Will test with the 12v thing, at both centre console and then the blind. Stupidly I didn't check the blind, assumed it'd be working. Hopefully I haven't bought a dud.

    Plug wise, bought plug of BMW, with wires, put wires into plug, then soldered both onto 6m wires, and then soldered back onto the BMW bought connector wires to go into centre console. So apart from the long wires, all of it is BMW parts.

    On the 3 pin plug, only the oter two (coming from rear blind) had a pin, so lined them up with that, and with the wires same colour as the ones going into the plug.
     
  11. 17 Dec 2017 at 10:19 PM #51
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    Fixed. Hadn't realised that the connector needed the black plastic removing for the pins to go fully in. Probably have the same issue with the ehated seats, but the small little temp control wires seem to be mangled, so I'm going to have to get some new connectors, fit them, then solder them on to the new unmangled wires.\

    Anyway, thought I'd leave a record of my stupidity here so someone else doesn't make the same mistake.

    If I'd removed the black plastic from the brown connector, I think everything might have worked first time...

    Meanwhile, blind up, blind down, blind up, blind down, blind up, blind down, blind up, blind down, etc
     
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    nice one mate :)
     
  13. 18 Dec 2017 at 11:36 PM #53
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    cheers for the help, I am really really happy with it! Got to swap my old parcel shelf back in (when i retrofit rear speakers and after i've redyed it a bit to make it blacker again) and have the 3 mounting screws to fit, but man, it is awesome, going to be great in summer, and will stop the glare i am getting from morning/afternoon sun on the parrot head unit i've just put it.

    So far, making it go up and down has not got old.
     
  14. 19 Dec 2017 at 6:55 AM #54
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    Hahahahaha, it doesnt...

    It was the first thing I did with the e92 mate, I love the rear blind.
     
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    Evening guys, just bought a sunblind and got the switch panel.

    Just want to confirm the correct wiring pins that will slide straight into the loom that plugs into the switch panel is the part number below and need 2 of them,

    "61130006663"

    Thanks.
     
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    Yes they should be the right ones, you will need x4 and plug #2

    Universal socket housing uncoded 3 POL. 61138377072

    You will need approx 4-5m of twin cable too (speaker wire will work fine).
     
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    Fitted mine two years ago with full control panel with the help ov John..aka ccfj1.
    I think i never ever used it,but nice to hav a full button panel
     
  18. 22 Jan 2018 at 9:10 PM #58
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    Got the wiring connector from the blind so luckily that's covered, have to see if I got some speaker wire spare somewhere lol.

    Cheers for that matey, just need to get some sorta carpet dye now as the shelf has turned sunburnt blue.:muttley:
     
  19. 22 Jan 2018 at 9:25 PM #59
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    Yeah its just a nice touch. I have seen you can get a full panel but without the heated seats which would be ideal for me but I'm sure it will turn up one day
     
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    Nah, you’ll find heated cinnamon seats before you find that switch :thumbsup: :roflmao:
     

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