E36 M3 track car re-body and re-imagine

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  1. 4 Mar 2019 at 9:38 PM #1
    Iain

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    This is a long termer for me and has see a lot of action and a lot of alterations over the years

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    The (somewhat) original build thread is here:
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    And is a bit out of date, so to bring it slightly more upto speed it has since done (to name just a few)

    Zolder, Spa, a few days at the ring, another set of hillclimbs and UK tracks


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    However after many years some of the things that had always bothered me about the car were starting to great on me, the cage was never quite as god as i would have liked and the overall quality of the shell was not what i would have liked.

    As such i considered stripping it right down and blasting the cage out, then something turned up....

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    On the face of it, this looked great, it had had a small bump in the quarter which the seller had said had been repaired, but had a full custom cages cage, fitted by custom cages in full t45 rather than cds and so would allow me to make some changes and then swap the running gear in.

    so i bought that sight unseen and my best mate brought it over to the island, where i left it outside for about 8 months (improving its condition no end)
     
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  2. 4 Mar 2019 at 9:40 PM #2
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    so i bought that sight unseen and my best mate brought it over to the island, where i left it outside for about 8 months (improving its condition no end)


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    Plans evolved and i decided i wanted to go quite a long way with the shell and really get it right, i also wanted to go gtr, but not full gtr. what i wanted to do is to get as close as practicably possible to the car that took bmw out of DTM the e36 dtm prototype

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    This car was not allowed to run in dtm as bmw wanted to move the engine backwards, this resulted in a huge fall out and BM took their ball home and told DTM to poke it.

    The prototype ended up being the Chia art car, and to me is the right one, its the Goldilocks, wide, but not too wide.

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    I finally go my finger out about two months ago, the most similar kit i can find is ready and waiting and i have spent about a million years scraping the underside, linishing welds and repairing a thousand bodges.

    The "repair" done actually consisted of hitting it with a balpeen hammer a few times them loading the car with 15kgs of filler, about a million holes have been cut and drilled in all the wrong places and brackets that are needed have been lopped off, which is, great.

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    With mose of the underseal removed and most of the repairs completed, the fun can begin. Currently its about 60% stitch welded and we have replaced the top the the front suspension mounts with Intrax weld in plates for proper camber and caster control.

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    will keep this rolling as things progress.......
     
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    Amazing work Iain. Looking forward to this progressing.
     
  4. 5 Mar 2019 at 8:43 AM #4
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    Nice one Iain, I’m glad to see you are doing a thread, I’m looking forward to this.
    Shouldn’t be long now should it? Basically some wheels and an engine and you are done lol. Should look like this?
    I agree it’s the best option for the e36, I love my gtr kit but damn it’s hard getting everything to work in harmony.

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  6. 6 Mar 2019 at 11:43 AM #6
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    It will be something like the orange one, my kit is a little more angular in terms of arch profile and the front bumper is a little less swept back.

    I am looking to build out a new engine as well (i have all the parts) so when we yank the engine from the current car that will likely get blown apart as well, just depends on time really, i have dry built the bottom end but need to take a bit more out of the block to clear the crank, time time and more time
     
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    Looking forward to seeing this finished Iain. Seems like 2019 is the year for E36's :beer:

    In terms of the kit, is this what it'll look like?

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    Well i must admit to surprise, you have actually found the exact kit that will be going on the car, no mean feat i can tell you.
     
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    That brings back some painful memorys, nothing worse than cleaning the underside of a shell.Good work cant wait to see this done
     
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    That car is absolutely stunning...! I've seen it in the flesh a few times and it is gorgeous...!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BoraTkVj4_N/
     
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    Looking forward to seeing this progress :)

    That kit is lovely. Was thinking of something a little similar for my E36 as the GTR kits can look a little bit much sometimes I think...as well as the decent ones costing an absolute fortune!
    Love the strut tops too... I might rob that idea :D


    What are you doing with the engine to need crank clearance? A 3.4 or 3.5?
     
  12. 8 Mar 2019 at 6:09 PM #12
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    The tops should give a lot more adjustment, particularly in my case as the remove reservoirs limit camber to the size of the hole in the turret which was not offset.

    Engine wise its more clarance for the rods, crank is from the e46 m3, needs the piston skirts trimming as well
     
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    Looks good Iain! Look forward to see it progressing.

    Feel your pain with the filler
     
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    Does the S54 crank work well in them? I don't have any crank for my S50 as I gave it to a friend as he was in a rush for fixing his drift car before an event but now finding trouble trying to get me another one as a replacement lol.

    I'm thinking of going 3.5 on my spare S54 for my E46 so I'd have an S54 crank from that I could use.
    Thought the trigger wheel for the crank sensor would have caused clearance issues in the S50 block maybe?

    Sorry for dragging off topic a little bit :eek:
     
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    Awesome project look forward to watching this unfold.
     
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    Yes, they fit, just remove the timing ring. Needs different rods the block adjusting and the piston skirt reducing or it will foul the squirters, depending on what pistons you use you may need to adjust the pocket angle and you will need a custom headgasket.

    Nothing all that exciting done this week, finished welding and linishing the fuel pump covers, more stitch welding, all the back is done and where needed tidied up, you can see the weld penetration clearly on the inside so it should be good and solid.

    Also as the rear shelf had been hole sawed into oblivion i cut it all out and made up a new one from aluminium and put it through the bead roller.

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    Looking good Iain, any more updates?
     
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  20. 1 Jun 2019 at 3:00 AM #20
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    Nothing hugely exciting really, need to get back on the case, currently rebuilding the spare gearbox and awaiting my knife edged crank back from the balancers.

    Cheers dude:thumbsup:
     

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