BMW i4 review - M4 rival?

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/i4

Or M3 rival as well - oops clicked create thread too quick!

Quite like these but Taycan is my preferred electric car.
Not yet Henry. Maybe 10 years time for electric for me once the range is up to 500 (so you can probably get to 300). Next generation Macan might interest me though as my next option. Going to enjoy the last full petrol M3.:)
 

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At least it looks like a normal car. So that’s a slight bonus.
 

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Still not sure why the mahoosive grilles on a car that doesn't need the air intake of a scramjet....
 

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...but electric (rechargeable battery) cars are not the future.

Hydrogen fuel cell is where we'll end up.
 

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...but electric (rechargeable battery) cars are not the future.

Hydrogen fuel cell is where we'll end up.
Most likely, but almost certainly not in the next 5 years or so, in which case electric is as good as anything at the moment.
 

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Most likely, but almost certainly not in the next 5 years or so, in which case electric is as good as anything at the moment.

If it is 5 years then I suppose it might be worth going electric for now, any less and you'll be paying for the inevitable loss in value knowing they'll be phased out and/replaced.

At least the continual improvement in electric motors will be useful.

BMW are releasing a Hydrogen X5 next year.
 

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If it is 5 years then I suppose it might be worth going electric for now, any less and you'll be paying for the inevitable loss in value knowing they'll be phased out and/replaced.

At least the continual improvement in electric motors will be useful.

BMW are releasing a Hydrogen X5 next year.
I certainly wouldn’t buy an electric car, lease is definitely the way to go on these for me.

Hydrogen cars are a no brainer but the production and storage of the hydrogen is what will hold it up. It’s been 7 years since Tesla first put superchargers in the uk and the infrastructure still isn’t there to support the majority of people, and that’s basically just wiring in a fancy plug in a box.

I’m surprised the government aren’t more behind hydrogen, all fuel duties are easily transferred as it’s just like buying petrol, electric gives them much more of a headache.
 

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Owners are finding the Porsche has woeful miles per charge, with normal driving some owners get 180 miles laughable.
It's all about the charging infrastructure and fast charging. I doubt you'd get much more than 180 miles out of a tank of fuel in your lovely new M5 Ultimate if your are booting it.
 

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It's all about the charging infrastructure and fast charging. I doubt you'd get much more than 180 miles out of a tank of fuel in your lovely new M5 Ultimate if your are booting it.
But I can fill up in 2 minutes not one hour, Super fast chargers are in the region of 10 in the UK, yep my nearest is 40 miles away in Cambridge.
Rarely get less than 20 MPG, so 280 miles minimum per tank, and on a run 25/27 MPG.
 
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But I can fill up in 2 minutes not one hour, Super fast chargers are in the region of 10 in the UK, yep my nearest is 40 miles away in Cambridge.
Rarely get less than 20 MPG, so 280 miles minimum per tank, and on a run 25 MPG.

I’ve had my electric van five months, I haven’t had to use a public charger. I just plug mine in overnight at home and it has a full tank in the morning. If we all had a petrol supply at home then a visit to the fuel station would be a very rare event for most drivers. 15 minute or less charging and 400/500 range will be the norm in five years time.
 

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I’ve had my electric van five months, I haven’t had to use a public charger. I just plug mine in overnight at home and it has a full tank in the morning. If we all had a petrol supply at home then a visit to the fuel station would be a very rare event for most drivers. 15 minute or less charging and 400/500 range will be the norm in five years time.
5 Years is a long way away Lofty, glad it suits your needs. I would need (when doing longer runs) 300 miles minimum of charge in a large saloon.
 

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5 Years is a long way away Lofty, glad it suits your needs. I would need (when doing longer runs) 300 miles minimum of charge in a large saloon.
Five years is just enough time for me to enjoy my M3 and for you to enjoy 4 or 5 M5's John.:D

No doubt I will go electric in the end.
 

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5 Years is a long way away Lofty, glad it suits your needs. I would need (when doing longer runs) 300 miles minimum of charge in a large saloon.
Yes the van is perfect for me but realise electric isn’t suitable for everyone. I was getting the claimed 200 mile range in my van as its mainly around town, but that is starting to drop as the weather turns colder, I think 150 during the winter will be closer to the mark, I am pre heating the interior for 15 minutes each morning which also doesn't help. I think my Mrs would like an electric car but I think it will be a while before I change.
 

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Five years is just enough time for me to enjoy my M3 and for you to enjoy 4 or 5 M5's John.:D

No doubt I will go electric in the end.
John I hope you get this M3 soon, you must be going Mad!!!
I can't see me at my age getting more than one more M5 which will be Hybrid I think, times running out for me.
 

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Pre heating should be done while plugged in to the charger.

With the i3 I put a departure time and it heats the interior and batteries to the optimum temps, this increases range as your not using battery.
Also melts any ice in the winter so no need for a scraper.
 

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Pre heating should be done while plugged in to the charger.

With the i3 I put a departure time and it heats the interior and batteries to the optimum temps, this increases range as your not using battery.
Also melts any ice in the winter so no need for a scraper.

My van doesn’t pre heat the battery (I dont think ) its just for comfort, I don't plug it in every night as I only do 30/40 miles per day.
 

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