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Old 15th June 2018, 02:21 PM   #1
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Booked it Wednesday for this Saturday on whim at brands hatch, so not really given myself any time to really pr we pare. Any tips? Crap I should bring? Had car up on ramp to check it last night and it all looks ok, will check fluids this eve.

Anyway, help a total novice out!
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Old 15th June 2018, 02:31 PM   #2
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Congrats on booking your first track session in the car.
Take some extra oil in case it uses any on track, tyre pressure gauge to check pressures after the first session (chances are you will need to let a little air out as they will be a higher pressure when hot).

As you say check all fluids before you go and ensure all of the brake pads have a good amount of friction material left on them.

Short of that just have fun and don't push too hard! If you can get some instruction while you are there so much the better, if not an experienced track day driver should be able to give you some tips!

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Old 15th June 2018, 03:28 PM   #3
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As he said ^^^, just take it easy, build up your pace and have fun. Remember the aim of the day is to be able to drive home, car and yourself in one piece with an ear to ear grin.
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Old 15th June 2018, 04:47 PM   #4
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Do short stints and keep your fluids up, drink plenty of water and I would book instruction first thing.
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Old 15th June 2018, 06:02 PM   #5
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Do cool down laps.
Don't put your handbrake on in the paddock /pits
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Old 15th June 2018, 07:26 PM   #6
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If you have a doubt on anything ( tires are slippery, worn or fading brakes), then no doubt...its time to do a cooling lap and go back to paddocks.

If full stock car, don't expect much more than 10 min before tire and break overheat.

First thing i've learned on my first track day: be humble...
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Old 15th June 2018, 08:09 PM   #7
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Its far better to start at 6/10ths and work up than 11/10th and work down.....

And be prepared to be totally totally addicted to driving on a circuit.
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Old 15th June 2018, 08:54 PM   #8
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If you have a doubt on anything ( tires are slippery, worn or fading brakes), then no doubt...its time to do a cooling lap and go back to paddocks.

If full stock car, don't expect much more than 10 min before tire and break overheat.

First thing i've learned on my first track day: be humble...
Yeah, I'm already paranoid enough, and I don't want to go trying to break lap records, really just a taster, and don't intend to push it all. Just want to dip my toes in the water really! Brakes should be good, as upgraded the fronts to AP 6pots end of last year, pads should have plenty life left in them too. Tyres, just standard Michelin PS4s.

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Don't put your handbrake on in the paddock /pits
Handbrake? Eh?

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Do short stints and keep your fluids up, drink plenty of water and I would book instruction first thing.
I've got mini instruction booked whihc I think is pretty much an instructor in the car for a lap or two three, reckoned that'd be a good way to go! If I like it (which I have a bad feeling that I will) then I'll be more prepared to book a few full day tuition sessions from there to become better. Rather do that than learn the hard (and expensive) way. Hadn't thought of water, but that makes sense!

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As he said ^^^, just take it easy, build up your pace and have fun. Remember the aim of the day is to be able to drive home, car and yourself in one piece with an ear to ear grin.
This is the plan

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Its far better to start at 6/10ths and work up than 11/10th and work down.....

And be prepared to be totally totally addicted to driving on a circuit.
Yeah, I would like to see improvement over the day, but I am under no illusion that there will be alot of people a lot faster than me, but it's not a competition for me anyway, however, I can already see it being addictive. And means I can justify the mods doner to car and actually use them, which'll be nice. Am really looking forward to it



Cooling laps, by this you guys mean do a slower lap to finish off a session to just get the car moving to cool down the oil/coolant etc?
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Old 15th June 2018, 09:03 PM   #9
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Having the handbrake up in the pits can cause the shoes to stick to the drums with the heat after being out on track.

As they cool, they'll pretty much weld themselves on then and you'll have trouble breaking them free again.
Same goes for driving in very cold weather. The frost sticks the shoes to the drums and seizes the cables.

Worth bringing Little wheel chocks that you can put to the wheels while in the pits in case it rolls if you want to leave the engine running



Best of luck though. Short stints so you don't cook the brakes, tyres, stress the car and even for yourself too as you'll take in more and learn in lots of 4 or 5 lap sessions rather than a long string of 10-20 laps and not remember half them, keep yourself hydrated and keep an eye on the fluid levels, temperatures and a few laps with others or them to sit in with you will help loads too.

You'll have loads of fun. It's ridiculously addictive so be prepared to have lots of upgrades on the shopping list next week

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Don't crash.
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Old 16th June 2018, 04:03 AM   #11
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Depending on when you do it, if you get stuck and brake anything or need a hand I’ll be down in the lower paddock setting up for my race on Sunday. White Transit next to a black M3 with a yellow Hack Engineering sticker :-)

I have built up a decent spares package now plus have tools etc
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Depending on when you do it, if you get stuck and brake anything or need a hand Iíll be down in the lower paddock setting up for my race on Sunday. White Transit next to a black M3 with a yellow Hack Engineering sticker :-)

I have built up a decent spares package now plus have tools etc
Now that is the Cutter spirit - wonderful that Graham
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Depending on when you do it, if you get stuck and brake anything or need a hand Iíll be down in the lower paddock setting up for my race on Sunday. White Transit next to a black M3 with a yellow Hack Engineering sticker :-)

I have built up a decent spares package now plus have tools etc
Awesome, cheers I'll come and say hello regardless, have a look at the weapon you've built, as not seen the new one yet!
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Awesome, cheers I'll come and say hello regardless, have a look at the weapon you've built, as not seen the new one yet!
Did you do the afternoon? I had my first track session in the M3 yesterday at brands in the morning. The car was superb.
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How did it go?

My first time on track was at Brands. I cooked my brakes by lunch time, despite race pads and fluids, and had to stop due to the judder! I note you have APs, though so you would have been fine.
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Looked to be going alright I only watched briefly. I thought the show would have been alot busier at Brands!
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Did you do the afternoon? I had my first track session in the M3 yesterday at brands in the morning. The car was superb.
Yeah, I did the afternoon, car was good, really did enjoy it, despite having the feeling that I really do need someone in the car to give me pointers. I did have someone booked, but he span off in the porsche the session before me. In any case, the next session I'll be getting someone in the car, as it's good fun, but it'd be more fun actually knowing more! Completely different to normal driving.

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My first time on track was at Brands. I cooked my brakes by lunch time, despite race pads and fluids, and had to stop due to the judder! I note you have APs, though so you would have been fine.
Went alright, didn't win any prizes for lap times, but got into it, and got better as the day wore on (well I think anyway). Think I have done my front tyres in a bit (the tread pattern definitely didn't look like it does now ) but other than that, no overheating, brakes held up nicely etc. Made a point of keeping the car running to keep oil up to temp as well. Some point I'll have to be a bit braver and do this without traction control on...

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Looked to be going alright I only watched briefly. I thought the show would have been a lot busier at Brands!
Cheers, was good fun, can see this being pretty addictive!

Yeah, I thought there'd be more people! It was a bit empty saturday and felt a bit weirdly organised. Turned up on sunday, but kind of late, still good to watch the racing, stuck around to see you get 3rd place!


And yes, I already have a shopping list, tuition for a day somewhere, a quieter exhaust (as at 102dB it was loud during the noise test, and the guy told me it peaked at 112... which will not get me onto circuits unless they have a 105 limit), some tires and a set of wheels for track are probably top of the list, then seats.

Basically, I had fun!
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It was quite quiet, which was very handy. Open pit lane in the morning was a nice surprise too.

I did 75 laps in the morning, broken down into about three sessions. My brakes (totally standard) obviously need some improvement as the brake judder after around 15 laps is quite severe. Any suggestions was to what?

I have 19" wheels for road and 18" for the track and I'm defiantly getting som proper track tyres for my next session and the extra grip will help prolong the brakes a bit too.

Driving with the traction off is the best. Although on the last bend before the straight, I went a bit throttle happy and have the back out at about 80 was a bit too fun!
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It was quite quiet, which was very handy. Open pit lane in the morning was a nice surprise too.

I did 75 laps in the morning, broken down into about three sessions. My brakes (totally standard) obviously need some improvement as the brake judder after around 15 laps is quite severe. Any suggestions was to what?

I have 19" wheels for road and 18" for the track and I'm defiantly getting som proper track tyres for my next session and the extra grip will help prolong the brakes a bit too.

Driving with the traction off is the best. Although on the last bend before the straight, I went a bit throttle happy and have the back out at about 80 was a bit too fun!
The APs i put on are one of the best things I have done to the car, completely unnecessary on the road, but I like knowing they are there!

I don't think I'll be brave enough to turn off traction until i've had someone pointing out errors, or actually found somewhere where i can practice finding out what happens that isn't a road when you push it. Kind of wish I'd done that airfield day, as that seems like a good place to be able to bin it without too many repercussions!
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Cheers, was good fun, can see this being pretty addictive!

Yeah, I thought there'd be more people! It was a bit empty saturday and felt a bit weirdly organised. Turned up on sunday, but kind of late, still good to watch the racing, stuck around to see you get 3rd place!
Yeah itís a downhill slope from here

Ah wicked, mega days racing
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