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Old 5th August 2017, 08:35 AM   #1
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Morning,
Can anyone help me here please?

I've given up with the search function as it seems to highlight every aspect of upgrade/mods OTHER than what I'm searching for.

Ok here goes.

Im looking to modify the gear shift change on my E46 M3 to a short shift one as its the only aspect of the drive that is lacking i.e. its tooo long between the gate.

A friend of mine in the States has used an excellent kit supplied by a company namely ROGUE Engineering short shift kit. I've researched the company and these are not used out sourced parts from parts bins these are bespoke parts to do the job.

So my questions are :-

1. Has anyone carried out the same conversations in the UK ?
2. If so did you carry out the conversation yourself ? Or use a specialist to carry out the change ? If yes who.

Looking for recommendations.

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Old 5th August 2017, 06:54 PM   #2
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Sooooo.....No recommendations from the masses ?

surprising
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Old 5th August 2017, 08:32 PM   #3
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Alot fit the shifter from the e46 330d which is shorter and the F10 M5 gear knob. This is what ill be looking into when i get my car back.

Had a quick search and found this thread

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23389

Might be worth a read

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Old 6th August 2017, 07:25 AM   #4
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Many thanks Rick,
Its the Rogue kit a friend recommended, i was wondering if they have a UK agent.
I'll contact them next week.

Obtaining the parts will be relatively easy the hard part is finding someone to carry out the work !

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Old 6th August 2017, 07:36 AM   #5
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I used to have a rogue kit on mine, great kit
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Old 6th August 2017, 07:53 AM   #6
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Hi ,I fitted the Rogue SSK to mine a few years back, just ordered it direct from Rogue. I also got their uprated gearbox mount bushes. Overall its a good kit and reduces the throw significantly. I fitted it myself. You will need to get under the car, take off the heat shields, drop the centre section of the exhaust because the gearbox will need to be lowered and inch or so . Its doable if you are handy But my recollection was it was a royal pain of a job. The gearbox will stay slightly notchy and I changed fluids, gearbox mount bushes etc but that's just the design of the gearbox. I also changed the gearstick knob to the weighted one. Overall Yes its a nice mod but given the effort if I was starting over I'd probably explore just changing the gearlever and knob as some suggested first and see how that feels. Hope that helps.
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I agree with the above, have a look at what other BMW's come with a shorter shifter already and fit that, it'll be cheaper and easier.
I have the UUC kit fitted and I love it, much shorter throw and very precise but it was fitted with engine and gearbox on the bench so no hassle compared to when the box is in situ.
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Old 8th August 2017, 10:21 AM   #8
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hi

have a look at our website, here is a link to the page,
http://www.ca-int.co.uk/companies-Y2...0X2lkPTEw.html
or call Roy on 01202 822792
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Old 8th August 2017, 10:23 AM   #9
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I had an AC Schnitzer short shift on my previous M3 and it felt a lot better than the standard shift. much shorter throw and felt perfect with the matching schnitzer gear stick.
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hi

have a look at our website, here is a link to the page,
http://www.ca-int.co.uk/companies-Y2...0X2lkPTEw.html
or call Roy on 01202 822792

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Old 8th August 2017, 05:54 PM   #11
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Thanks for replies Gents.

I will make a decision over the coming months.
I'm in no rush with plenty of time to research it.

The notchiness has never bothered me as I find once the car is up to temp this drastically reduces.

It's the relatively long throw between changes that is the only thing not spot on for me.
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Old 8th August 2017, 07:55 PM   #12
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I swapped out mine for the E60 530/45/50 shifter and coupled with the F10 M5 gearknob it makes for a nicer more precise change and shorter throw which is just right.

The shifter itself is around 50 ish. Definitely well worth it.
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Old 12th August 2017, 07:40 AM   #13
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Good to hear. Did you carry out the change yourself and were all your parts genuine OEM ?
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Old 12th August 2017, 07:49 AM   #14
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I recently fitted a RTD shifter. They are made to order and are a fantastic piece of kit. It's tunnel mounted and is very like the CAE shifter. I wouldn't go back having experienced this. It's truly savage. It's super smooth and despite some people saying they are notchy mine is not.
Its slightly higher than stock if you get the mini version.
I paid about 450 euros delivered to Ireland and that's the V2 version with an anodised finish and the Aluminium DSSR (selector rod).
It would blow the uuc or rogue out of the water. Only downside is it has an increase in noise and vibration through it because of the tunnel mounting but you soon forget about that . The throw is brilliant and really snappy and satisfying click when you select the gears.

Makes my friends 330d shifter look very long and sloppy.

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Good to hear. Did you carry out the change yourself and were all your parts genuine OEM ?
Cheers
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Yes OEM and no didn't fit the shifter as you really need a ramp so got someone to fit it.
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Its handy enough to do it with axle stands. No ramp needed if just a simple shifter swap. Skint knuckles is the worst part. Bend the heat shield a little for access
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Its handy enough to do it with axle stands. No ramp needed if just a simple shifter swap. Skint knuckles is the worst part. Bend the heat shield a little for access
Which is exactly why I didn't want to do it myself lol
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Old 13th August 2017, 05:14 AM   #18
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Gents have got any links for the kit you're both referring to so I can read up and do my homework as I've plenty of time to research this before buy the kit.
Mines garaged at the minute as I just havent had the time to mess around with my M3 this summer.
Any more info would be really appreciated. I need to find a way of comparing the options but of course there's no way to 'try before you buy' so I'm trying to research it thoroughly up front.
Also any photos of your finished set up ?

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Hopefully everyone has the heavy version of the BMW gear knob fitted too (the CS one - without the backlight)?

Doesn't reduce the throw, but - strangely - does have a noticeable effect on how smooth/positive the shift action feels.

There. Managed to comment on the thread without advertising the product mentioned in the first post...
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