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Old 3rd July 2018, 11:09 AM   #1
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Default Pirelli Trofeo R Tyre for Trackday?

Just curious if anyone has any experience of the Trofeo R for trackdays given PS4S grained in a short time on a hot/dry track?

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Old 3rd July 2018, 11:10 AM   #2
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They're incredible. I've been in a few E46 M3s on track with Trofeo Rs and the grip levels are like nothing else.
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Old 3rd July 2018, 02:15 PM   #3
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can second this.

I did a 7:22 BTG with them on my E92 M3
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Old 3rd July 2018, 04:08 PM   #4
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They're a good semi slick tyre and up there with the best for out and out grip.

They have soft sidewall which makes them nice to drive on the road too.

Only negatives are that they're pressure sensitive and they wear quick.
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Old 3rd July 2018, 04:14 PM   #5
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how long would you get out of them seeing as they are only 5mm, I know that is hard to say but are you looking at half the lifetime of a michelin 4s?
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Old 4th July 2018, 07:18 AM   #6
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The comments about the soft side walls are true. MY KW CS's are fully adjusted for maximum camber at the front and the outside edge of the tyres are wearing prematurely.
I need to find a solution to this as the general wear rate seems really good actually.
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Old 4th July 2018, 05:28 PM   #7
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Only used mine on the road so far but I’m very pleased with the grip on offer.
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Old 5th July 2018, 03:23 PM   #8
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I have those 295 on the rear and they grip amazingly. Use them on a daily basis. In sure they would be amazing for track!
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Old 5th July 2018, 03:32 PM   #9
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How do they compare with Cup 2's ?
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Old 6th July 2018, 09:36 AM   #10
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FAR better than a Cup2.Cup 2 is an OK track tyre, but nothing special.
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Old 6th July 2018, 02:49 PM   #11
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The comments about the soft side walls are true. MY KW CS's are fully adjusted for maximum camber at the front and the outside edge of the tyres are wearing prematurely.
I need to find a solution to this as the general wear rate seems really good actually.
Bigger arbs???

what other mods have you got to achieve that sort of time? Or are you just a nutcase?

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Old 6th July 2018, 03:37 PM   #12
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can second this.

I did a 7:22 BTG with them on my E92 M3
Do you have a video of this?
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Bigger arbs???

what other mods have you got to achieve that sort of time? Or are you just a nutcase?

I wouldn't say a nutcase rather that Danny has driving skills
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Old 7th July 2018, 09:19 AM   #14
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And at high speed they sound like a diving Spitfire, which is a bonus.
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Old 7th July 2018, 12:27 PM   #15
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Do you have a video of this?
Yes. Will upload it next week once itís edited.
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Old 8th July 2018, 08:36 AM   #16
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Bigger arbs???

what other mods have you got to achieve that sort of time? Or are you just a nutcase?

Sorry, only just spotted this.
The only thing that is standard on the car are the ARBS lol. It has KW CS 3 ways, GT4 aero, ap brakes, remap etc etc.

Plus Iím a nutcase
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Sorry, only just spotted this.
The only thing that is standard on the car are the ARBS lol. It has KW CS 3 ways, GT4 aero, ap brakes, remap etc etc.

Plus Iím a nutcase
What pressures are you running them at?

Very good time though
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30 psi hot
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30 psi hot
Maybe worth checking with Pirelli to see. As the Cup 2 is soft, and is 35psi hot. Could be why the sides are rolling over. Made a massive difference to the Cup 2, and now they wear evenly at last.
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Old 9th July 2018, 09:48 AM   #20
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Sorry, only just spotted this.
The only thing that is standard on the car are the ARBS lol. It has KW CS 3 ways, GT4 aero, ap brakes, remap etc etc.

Plus I’m a nutcase
Any reason the arbs are stock?

The lap time sounds amazing really. Good work. I'd love to jump in some time.

EDIT: yeh wouldn't mind knowing more about tyre pressures. I was at 32 front 34 back with 265/295 setup.
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