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Old 13th February 2018, 07:04 AM   #1
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Default Propshaft overhaul

Looking for some advise/ prices / what to do with my prop, something I wanted to do last year when I had the RACP and other bits done underneath, just ran out of time ect.

I take it a new prop would be mega bucks, can I get my one refurbed? or is it BMW parts only, Im in the MK area if anyone knows an engineering company who can do anything!

Just to add, guibo and bearing are all good according to Shaun at GRID, he did say the prop was past its best

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Old 13th February 2018, 07:20 AM   #2
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It's a prop not a bit of bling. Unless anything is up with it leave it alone
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:26 AM   #3
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It's a prop not a bit of bling. Unless anything is up with it leave it alone
That reminds me, must get my sovereigns polished up!
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:31 AM   #4
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Probably easier to buy a carbon prop, at least then you get a benefit.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:32 AM   #5
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Which bits on it are 'past their best' ?

The rear cv joint is available separately for about 200. The centre uj isn't listed on its own but I expect they're just standard bearings, but unless your car has done moon and back mileage then I expect it's fine.

The rest is just a metal tube!

A new prop will set you back about a grand from BMW.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:58 AM   #6
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Probably easier to buy a carbon prop, at least then you get a benefit.
Now that is bling!
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Old 13th February 2018, 11:36 AM   #7
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Probably easier to buy a carbon prop, at least then you get a benefit.
What real benefits would they be?

Don't say weight - because I can nearly guarantee no one would feel any thing different other than 1500 lighter, and having to replace it 3 years down the line because it has cracked.

Don't know if your comment was tongue in cheek but if not its a daft suggestion.

OP - as above, 200 ish gets you the end CV joint or 100 on ebay for an unknown brand.

The UJ is supposed to be non-rebuildable, I found this hand guide (non M3) which might help, however I decided when I do mine I will look for a good used prop (ie good UJ) and replace CV etc on that off the car.

Don't forget to replace the center bearing and front rubber coupling whilst doing it, and remember exhaust joints maybe past their best so get parts required for that before you start.

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Old 13th February 2018, 11:41 AM   #8
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Also may be worth replacing diff input seal while your there, just... because.
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I find it hard to see how it could be passed its best.

It's a metal tube. Unless it's damaged from an impact in the past then it should be fine with a new bearings , guibo and rear CV joint.
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There goes Shaun again talking $hit
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What real benefits would they be?

Don't say weight - because I can nearly guarantee no one would feel any thing different other than 1500 lighter, and having to replace it 3 years down the line because it has cracked.

Don't know if your comment was tongue in cheek but if not its a daft suggestion.

OP - as above, 200 ish gets you the end CV joint or 100 on ebay for an unknown brand.

The UJ is supposed to be non-rebuildable, I found this hand guide (non M3) which might help, however I decided when I do mine I will look for a good used prop (ie good UJ) and replace CV etc on that off the car.

Don't forget to replace the center bearing and front rubber coupling whilst doing it, and remember exhaust joints maybe past their best so get parts required for that before you start.

Good luck
Rob,
Great stuff Rob, very helpful mate

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Also may be worth replacing diff input seal while your there, just... because.
Had the diff out and all seals done when Shaun did the underside restore

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I find it hard to see how it could be passed its best.

It's a metal tube. Unless it's damaged from an impact in the past then it should be fine with a new bearings , guibo and rear CV joint.
Perhaps thats what he was referring to?
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Old 13th February 2018, 04:27 PM   #12
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There goes Shaun again talking $hit
I don't think he is mate, the car has done 157k and there are noises, I know they all make random noises but I'm sure mine is needing some work.

On a personal level I think Shaun is a decent guy, couldn't do enough to help me, I highly recommend him!
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I find it hard to see how it could be passed its best.

It's a metal tube. Unless it's damaged from an impact in the past then it should be fine with a new bearings , guibo and rear CV joint.
Unless the floor is hanging off the bottom it's not like the rear CV gets anywhere near as much movement as the rear drive shaft CV joints
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Old 13th February 2018, 06:31 PM   #14
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Now that is bling!
Is it bling if it's in a dark place under the car and light can't bounce off it?
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:01 PM   #15
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Hi,we use Bailey Morris in Eaton Socon near St,Neots. They do them for our race cars.They do a good job.Mike.
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