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Old 4th October 2010, 07:19 PM   #41
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He's on his way to Finland!

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Old 4th October 2010, 07:24 PM   #42
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yes but there is more than person that works there
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Old 4th October 2010, 07:25 PM   #43
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yes but there is more than person that works there
You think?
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Old 5th October 2010, 09:29 AM   #44
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I think he has taken all the kits to Finland with him as we are mapping a few cars out there.

When I get a chance to speak to him I will see if he took any pictures.
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Old 5th March 2011, 12:34 AM   #45
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Guys wouldn't a GB be nice for this?
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Old 5th March 2011, 06:51 AM   #46
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It could be.

Not everyone will be comfortable fitting these themselves. There is cutting, drilling, stripping (wires), screwing and soldering involved.

One other thing is that you need to make sure at the end of it that the whole thing works and you'll need a diagnostic cable for that.
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Old 5th March 2011, 09:24 AM   #47
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I'm gonna need one sal, this is perfect for sitting in the que at santa pod lol
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Old 5th March 2011, 07:35 PM   #48
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Any pics guys!??
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Old 6th March 2011, 10:16 AM   #49
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It could be.

Not everyone will be comfortable fitting these themselves. There is cutting, drilling, stripping (wires), screwing and soldering involved.

One other thing is that you need to make sure at the end of it that the whole thing works and you'll need a diagnostic cable for that.

I see, I assumed it was a DIY at home kit since it came with instructions.

Am I right in saying this in theory could cure the the "K&N makes you lose power" issue? Also would this also mean even a standard airbox (or any intake for that matter) will give consistently give more power after this mod.

I know a lot of people said the power loses were due to the aftermarket intake designs not being as good as BMW's original but won't this mod now put all intakes ever made on even-ground and provide a truer picture as to what gives gains and what actually makes losses?
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Old 6th March 2011, 03:10 PM   #50
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I see, I assumed it was a DIY at home kit since it came with instructions.

Am I right in saying this in theory could cure the the "K&N makes you lose power" issue? Also would this also mean even a standard airbox (or any intake for that matter) will give consistently give more power after this mod.

I know a lot of people said the power loses were due to the aftermarket intake designs not being as good as BMW's original but won't this mod now put all intakes ever made on even-ground and provide a truer picture as to what gives gains and what actually makes losses?
It is DIY but a little more difficult then most DIY's.

This would not cure the K&N or any open cone issue because your not actually solving the problem of high intake temperatures.

Here we are solving the issue which is of heatsoak of the temperature sensor inside the MAF.

You would get more consistent power.

The point here is not to trick the ECU into thinking the temperature is lower but to actually provide a more consistent and true inlet temperature.

Tricking the ECU into thinking the temps are lower is a bad thing.
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Old 26th September 2011, 12:46 PM   #51
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Just read mjbchill's DIY post on fitting this sensor and my bluetooth OBD2 modem arrived this morning so hooked it up to my Android phone and 'Torque' app to give me a readout of the air intake temps and they seem way out compared to the outside air temp on the dash display:

Outside temp 12-13degC

38degC - inlet temp before start-up (heat soak from engine, last used about 4hrs ago)
30degC - inlet temp after start-up, engine idle
25degC - inlet temp after a few seconds of driving
22degC - inlet temp after a few mins of driving

Seems that the MAF temp sensor is over reading by at least double the outside temp! And my M3 has the cold air feed mod that helps get more air into the airbox. The temps will probably drop further after a longer drive but would shoot straight up again I presume as soon as the car is at a standstill for a period of time.

How much would these kind of temp readings effect around town running?

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Old 26th September 2011, 06:43 PM   #52
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Same for E36 M3?
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Old 26th September 2011, 08:12 PM   #53
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The E36 has a separate temp sensor in the air inlet plenum as opposed to a combined temp sensor in a MAF meter so not sure if this sensor would suffer from heatsoak, Evolve might have the answer to this. If it is a problem then it should be as simple as relocating the sensor to the filter box away from the engine.
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Old 7th July 2017, 04:39 PM   #54
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Whoops, wrong thread. Sorry!

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Old 10th July 2017, 05:54 PM   #55
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Sorry guys. What was the intake hose modification that you carried out? I'm interested in both things.


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Hi Guys,

over the last few months lots has been discussed about intake temperature on the E46 M3 and how crucial it is to achieve consistent power from the S54 engine.

The intake hose modification is quite clearly working after our datalogging work.

That information was free.

The next thing on the list of cheap and useful mods is relocating the temperature probe from the MAF to the opening of the airbox.

The temperature probe on std car is located in the MAF which does eventually heatsoak.

We have built up kits with instructions so that this can be done.

Price is 99 for:

Temp Probe
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Wiring Loom
Instructions
Postage

Images will be posted.
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