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Stu78 19th November 2015 08:29 PM

**Karbonius CSL Airbox Complete Parts List**
 
Karbonius Airbox - 1400 - Purchased from, TrackM3 Plus 25 Postage. http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=132341

Karbonius Snorkel - 300 - Purchased from, TrackM3
or
CSL Control Unit (11617833498) - 307.80 - Purchased from BMW (csl vin required unless your a regular like me to the parts department and know them all well! Lol)

4 x Fillister Head with Washer for CSL Control Unit (07119901780) - 1.86 - Purchased from BMW

ITG Airfilter - 75 - Purchased from TrackM3
OEM CSL filter - 93 - Cotswold BMW

CSL IAT Sensor (13621739510) - 31.84 - Purchased from BMW (This is a perfect fit in the Karbonius Boxes)
2 pole socket housing for CSL IAT Sensor (12521427615) - 1.04 - Purchased from BMW
90 deg protective boot for 2 pole socket housing (12521732635) - 3.21 - Purchased from BMW


1 Bar GM Map Sensor - http://www.robietherobot.com/storm/mapsensor.htm

MSS54HP DME required for the CSL Conversion -

Mike (M3carbon1), Paul Claude and Martyn all come highly recommended to do this conversion and they all can fit these boxes too if required. Please PM them for prices.:thumbsup:



Parts list

**Manual Transmission**

CSL Crank Case Vent Hose (11157833649) - 21.20
CSL Airbox Air Shut Off Valve (11617833647) - 62.27
6 x Clamps (59 - 66mm) (07129952125) 6.98 inc VAT

**SMG Transmission would need all of the above and the following**

CSL SMG Expansion Tank Bracket (41147896136) 17.33
CSL SMG Expansion Tank Reservoir (21532282549) 84
Pentosin CHF 11S Fluid - 20.08

**Optional Air Feed Items if you have a CSL Bumper**

CSL Intake Tube (11617833648) - 46.33
CSL Airduct (11617833646) - 23.54
CSL Suction Tube (11617833645)
CSL Intake Manifold Hose (13717896774)


Additional Parts for those who have purchased the OEM CSL Control Unit to get the flap operating. These can be purchased from BMW



1 x 12521427615 - 1.04 2 pole socket housing for flap motor.
2 x 12520007172 - 3.17 each. Wire for flap motor
1 x 12521732635 - 3.21 90 deg protective boot for flap motor socket housing
1 x 12521427222 - 1.04 3 pole socket housing for flap position sensor.
3 x 12520007170 - 3.17 each. Wires for flap position sensor.
1 x 12521732634 - 2.92 straight protective boot for flap position sensor socket housing.
2 x 12517508831 - 2.13 each. Corrugated tube for the wires above to run back to wire harness and makes it all look oem.

7 lengths of thin wire to connect to the dme box. (Can be purchased from here - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THINWALL-0...2oKBcAZx5UgLiA) - 1.95 for 5m.

3 wires are to connect to the flap position sensor, 2 are to connect to the motor and 2 are to connect to the Iat sensor.


Below is wiring diagram and a few details how to wire up and get the flap working.

A link to more detailed wiring instructions that I found on M3Forum.net is included at the end of this thread

A link to fitting the airbox with 3 videos also on the M3Forum.net is included at the end of this thread.


[IMG]http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...psjjdkbpk0.jpg[/IMG]

There are four larger connectors in the dme wiring box, undo the first one towards the front of engine bay and work backwards.
x6002 is the wiring block of the four nearest the bulkhead and pins 8 and 9 should be empty so plug in two wires to them part no 2x 61130005197 - 1.92 each.
x6003 is the next one next and is the largest of the block connectors, you will need 1 x wire 61130005197 and follow the wiring in the list and all is done, one of the pins will be empty so use this wire for that and solder the others to appropriate wires.

Additional Items to be soldered onto the engine DME circuit board to allow the CSL Control Unit flap to work

1x chip
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3216546748...817%26_rdc%3D1

2x capacitors
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1415909555...544%26_rdc%3D1

1x capacitor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2712267661...193%26_rdc%3D1

Please not the pricing for the BMW parts above may vary slightly depending on the discount you get.

A huge thanks to Ultimate3 who helped me out a great deal by sending me some of the part numbers / ebay items to help put this sticky together. :

Just found this very useful wiring guide over on, M3forum.net - http://totalmcars.com/thread/4841/di...sl-flap-wiring

Just found this very useful airbox fitting guide over on, M3Forum.net - http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=395864

64e 3m wmb 19th November 2015 08:43 PM

Thank you :thumbsup: very good thread if you are doing this mod which I am

bimbob 19th November 2015 09:00 PM

Great info there Stu.

ccfj1 19th November 2015 09:29 PM

Nice one Stu, stuck mate...

Stu78 19th November 2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 1842338)
Nice one Stu, stuck mate...

Cheers John :thumbsup:

N88YEM3 20th November 2015 10:24 AM

Few questions:

1. Csl map sensor, plug/housing, wires required, position of location?
2. Csl iat sensor plug/housing, wires required part numbers?
3. You mentioned this below wiring configuration but where are we wiring the other sides of the wires? I mean which sensors motors etc?

(There are four larger connectors in the dme wiring box, undo the first one towards the front of engine bay and work backwards.
x6002 is the wiring block of the four nearest the bulkhead and pins 8 and 9 should be empty so plug in two wires to them part no 2x 61130005197 - 1.92 each.
x6003 is the next one next and is the largest of the block connectors, you will need 1 x wire 61130005197 and follow the wiring in the list and all is done, one of the pins will be empty so use this wire for that and solder the others to appropriate wires.)

I bought 12x clamps pn.07129952125 They fit adequately on both sides of the boot.
http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/...psezuatjud.jpg

Stu78 20th November 2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N88YEM3 (Post 1842656)
Few questions:

1. Csl map sensor, plug/housing, wires required, position of location?

A stated above a Vauxhall GM map sensor is commonly used but as Mike will be doing mine I don't know what the part is to post a link to it until I speak to Mike. Same goes for the wiring and position as this is what he will be doing.

I will add to the parts list accordingly once I know

2. Csl iat sensor plug/housing, wires required part numbers?

This is all listed above. Sensor / connector / wiring and protective boot for housing. **Read the thread**

CSL IAT Sensor (13621739510)
1 x 12521732635 - 3.21 90 deg protective boot for CSL IAT Socket Housing.
12521427222 - 1.04 3 pole housing for flap position sensor.
3 x 12520007170 - 3.17 each. Wires for above.


3. You mentioned this below wiring configuration but where are we wiring the other sides of the wires? I mean which sensors motors etc?

(There are four larger connectors in the dme wiring box, undo the first one towards the front of engine bay and work backwards.
x6002 is the wiring block of the four nearest the bulkhead and pins 8 and 9 should be empty so plug in two wires to them part no 2x 61130005197 - 1.92 each.
x6003 is the next one next and is the largest of the block connectors, you will need 1 x wire 61130005197 and follow the wiring in the list and all is done, one of the pins will be empty so use this wire for that and solder the others to appropriate wires.)

This is just to show the basic wiring configuation that is needed to get the flap working. The picture and description was sent to me with the parts list required so I just included it as it explains how to wire the flap up and is relevant to this section of the parts list.

**This Thread is purely a parts list and not a step by step guide on how to wire up or fit the airbox. I have just added a few links to my thread and if you go to the bottom of the page you will find very good fitting and wiring guides from over on the M3Forum.net**


I bought 12x clamps pn.07129952125 They fit adequately on both sides of the boot.
http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/...psezuatjud.jpg

12 are not needed but can be used if required

XKaLiBaR 8th December 2015 05:33 PM

Anyone know where the intake manifold goes? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...97#13717896774

And why is the suction tube so expensive lol http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_3518 Its a plastic tube!

lee gray 8th December 2015 05:56 PM

Orite chaps 1 question u mentioned a csl shut off valve where does this go and whats it for?
Thanks lee.

Stu78 8th December 2015 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR (Post 1860315)
Anyone know where the intake manifold goes? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...97#13717896774

it just screws to the bottom of a csl bumper and just pulls air from behind the bumper. Fits next to the main cold air intake on the csl bumper.

And why is the suction tube so expensive lol http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_3518 Its a plastic tube!

not worth bothering with imho I've just ordered first part 9 that connects to the secondary airfeed on the airbox. Not bothering with the other parts as a simple bit of cheap intake tube can do the same job when connected to part 9 and cable tied to the bottom of the bumper.

These are the bits your on about.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...sncyllf1h.jpeg

Stu78 8th December 2015 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee gray (Post 1860336)
Orite chaps 1 question u mentioned a csl shut off valve where does this go and whats it for?
Thanks lee.

It goes here and replaces the std one and is needed to fit the csl airbox. Think the old one can be messed about with to fit but if you want to go back to std in the future you would want to keep the original one as it is.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...s8chl8ejf.jpeg

ksa74f 8th December 2015 09:39 PM

Different shape too.

XKaLiBaR 9th December 2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu78 (Post 1860609)
not worth bothering with imho I've just ordered first part 9 that connects to the secondary airfeed on the airbox. Not bothering with the other parts as a simple bit of cheap intake tube can do the same job when connected to part 9 and cable tied to the bottom of the bumper.

These are the bits your on about.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...sncyllf1h.jpeg

Blimey. How is that end bit connected to the bumper ? I don't see any zip cords, just a bit of tape.

It's a lot of weight this csl box.

Stu78 9th December 2015 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR (Post 1860886)
Blimey. How is that end bit connected to the bumper ? I don't see any zip cords, just a bit of tape.

It's a lot of weight this csl box.

I believe their is a screw hole in the CSL bumper so it holds it firmly in place with a screw. I think the tape maybe to fix a rip or hole in the pipe. lol.

Part 9 (11617833646) is all you need for the secondary airfeed from the airbox which I will then connect the following to or something cheaper when I spend more time searching. This is only of relevance to me and anyone running the control unit with flap really otherwise if I had just a snorkel I would not be bothering with this second cold air feed and would just blank the hole off.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/76mm-Intake-.../dp/B00AKUGWBG

billyboym3 10th December 2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR (Post 1860886)
Blimey. How is that end bit connected to the bumper ? I don't see any zip cords, just a bit of tape.

It's a lot of weight this csl box.

See that bit of tape to the right, ignore that, keep moving up and all you need is a cable tie. My Csl one is held on by a cable tie only. I think I wrapped mine around the other solid tube. That is the correct position in the picture, just facing down.

Then that pipe wraps around as the picture. Attach that first and the only way to get the solid pipe is to slide the bumper on in place, you could b and q it but I'm going to get the real part when I fit it on the m3.

It's fiddly, took me about 30min first time round with passenger jacked up.

Bimmerboy 30th December 2015 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR (Post 1860315)
Anyone know where the intake manifold goes? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...97#13717896774

And why is the suction tube so expensive lol http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_3518 Its a plastic tube!

It goes on the front bumper secured by black plastic clips I have the oem Csl bumper so have installed it how it's meant to be you have to remove the brake ducts and run the piping up pass the alternator

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psq9mev1uq.jpg

Stu78 31st December 2015 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerboy (Post 1879957)
It goes on the front bumper secured by black plastic clips I have the oem Csl bumper so have installed it how it's meant to be you have to remove the brake ducts and run the piping up pass the alternator

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psq9mev1uq.jpg

I am fitting just part 9 to my secondary air feed hole on the airbox and i am going to buy some flexi pipe to connect to part 9 instead of using part 10 the second piece of plastic and that expensive part 21 (bmw's flexi hose).

I am using the std bumper so will cable tie the flexi pipe somewhere at the bottom of the engine and the main cold air feed coming off the control unit i will have to tweak to fit in the brake duct due to not using the csl bumper.

billyboym3 6th January 2016 11:54 AM

To all in the know, what do you need to do if your car is earlier than 2003? Purchase a new/2nd hand ECU? To be able to run CSL map?

Stu78 6th January 2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyboym3 (Post 1886408)
To all in the know, what do you need to do if your car is earlier than 2003? Purchase a new/2nd hand ECU? To be able to run CSL map?

I would drop Mike (M3Carbon1) a PM mate he's the expert in all things ECU's and CSL software conversions :thumbsup:

billyboym3 6th January 2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu78 (Post 1886438)
I would drop Mike (M3Carbon1) a PM mate he's the expert in all things ECU's and CSL software conversions :thumbsup:

Excellent, have done.

Billy


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